woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Ninjas get no days off, even when they aren't working.
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Newfie
Guest
Ever vigilant sneaky bastards.
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
You don't get to be able to jump up on roof tops by sitting in front of the tube on the sofa eating potato chips.
Bodean
Cali dreamer
Just saw this thread.
15/hour. I don't think that would cover my life's nut.
I worked for 25/hour and was 1099'd after the whole year, I wasn't a Licensed C yet.
I also had the 10% which was cool.
It definetly adds incentive.
Rob, If you want to set up a technical rigging pine wreck from over someone's house and walk away ,
knowing it's all good and clean by end of the day,
I bet you'd pay more.
Yes, FLORIDA weeds the wheat from the chaff.
It's really all about pace, hydration and shade if you hope to live.
It's evil out there.
15/hour. I don't think that would cover my life's nut.
I worked for 25/hour and was 1099'd after the whole year, I wasn't a Licensed C yet.
I also had the 10% which was cool.
It definetly adds incentive.
Rob, If you want to set up a technical rigging pine wreck from over someone's house and walk away ,
knowing it's all good and clean by end of the day,
I bet you'd pay more.
Yes, FLORIDA weeds the wheat from the chaff.
It's really all about pace, hydration and shade if you hope to live.
It's evil out there.
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robdog
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I am flexible for the right man
I dont think you guys get this.The money is flexible..$15 to start and 10% sales on confirmed contracts is good money for a trusted foreman.After the first couple of weeks when we can trust each other the hourly rate probably goers up to $20 .....
The work schedule is monday tuesday wed off thrush and friday...weekends off .this is the crew work schedule....sales is all week . The foreman/salesman needs a big rake or maybe a leaf blower to corral his Jack! is broward that hard? I hear the trees are small....certainly not 125' ponderosas.
I dont think you guys get this.The money is flexible..$15 to start and 10% sales on confirmed contracts is good money for a trusted foreman.After the first couple of weeks when we can trust each other the hourly rate probably goers up to $20 .....
The work schedule is monday tuesday wed off thrush and friday...weekends off .this is the crew work schedule....sales is all week . The foreman/salesman needs a big rake or maybe a leaf blower to corral his Jack! is broward that hard? I hear the trees are small....certainly not 125' ponderosas.
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Newfie
Guest
Hurry up guys. He has qualified candidates lining up around the corner.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
That's the vibe I'm getting.
lumberjack
Young man on the go
At the local steel mill the electricians for the furnace make about $14-16 an hour + weekly production bonus.
Making $20 an hour + 10% and guaranteed 40+ hours a week doesn't seem terrible. That's 800 a week before the 10%. 10% should add at least another $300 during the slow times, more like $5-600 in normal times and more in busy times of course.
I don't know about costs of living, but $1100-1400 a week doesn't seem terrible by my local standards.
Making $20 an hour + 10% and guaranteed 40+ hours a week doesn't seem terrible. That's 800 a week before the 10%. 10% should add at least another $300 during the slow times, more like $5-600 in normal times and more in busy times of course.
I don't know about costs of living, but $1100-1400 a week doesn't seem terrible by my local standards.
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Jonseredbred
Guest
I'll hire that fat kid on the stump for $15.00/hour.
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Treeslayer
Guest
social security?
lumberjack
Young man on the go
$1100 x 50 weeks= $55k+ a year. $1100 x.7= $770 a week.
I can live on $770+ a week, $3200 a month. That's basically $40k+ a year take home pay.
The average homeowner's home is $128k, median household income is $43k and $23k per capita. He's offering a job that brings home about 2.5x the average person's income.
If the work is like he says it is, it doesn't seem unreasonble that the crew could gross $300k a year or better. That'd have his top man bringing home $56k working 50 hours a week.
I can live on $770+ a week, $3200 a month. That's basically $40k+ a year take home pay.
The average homeowner's home is $128k, median household income is $43k and $23k per capita. He's offering a job that brings home about 2.5x the average person's income.
If the work is like he says it is, it doesn't seem unreasonble that the crew could gross $300k a year or better. That'd have his top man bringing home $56k working 50 hours a week.
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Newfie
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Jonseredbred
Guest
Frig it. I am heading to Broward County. $10.00/hour and a tent is all I need to exist.
Bodean
Cali dreamer
Don't forget a pot to piss in..
lumberjack
Young man on the go
I could too if I was young and lived with my parents.
Or if you married a doctor.
I must be dense. $20 an hour, 8 hours a day + 10% of $1k would be $32.50 an hour, which doesn't seem UNFAIR to me.
I'm not going to do it, obviously, but I don't see how he's shafting his foreman.
thattreeguy
TreeHouser
you need parolee's..............
everybody's gettin spoiled and worth top dollar, some are some aren't, find the ones that are worthy, and pay what you can
good luck in your search
everybody's gettin spoiled and worth top dollar, some are some aren't, find the ones that are worthy, and pay what you can
good luck in your search
Cobleskill
Treehouser
Hangin' chads too!
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Jonseredbred
Guest
Keep an eye out for dimpled chads.
I aint gay, I aint into Chad even if he has dimples.
R
robdog
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shall not should
remember those words for the arborist exam? well I "shall" do tree work whatever it takes in Broward county......
hope to hear from you all form nov23 to dec 5th.....www.wildernesstree.com florida
remember those words for the arborist exam? well I "shall" do tree work whatever it takes in Broward county......
hope to hear from you all form nov23 to dec 5th.....www.wildernesstree.com florida
sotc
Dormant hero!!
best of luck to ya rob
Managing 3 distant locations, even peripherally, is way ambitious.
I like the basic gist of your plan, Rob. Not a bad way to have 3 homes in 3 different locales.
Hope you find the right candidate.
To me it isn't so much about wages as much as finding the right person. Asking a full time working foreman to be responsible for sales = 12 hour days on a swing shift (most sales are evenings). Even if the "laboring" end of it is light-duty, you've still gotta be there nearly every minute or the cell phones come out.
I've never gotten past being on site. It's really hard to find quality people.
Best o' luck... and keep us posted, ey ?
I like the basic gist of your plan, Rob. Not a bad way to have 3 homes in 3 different locales.
Hope you find the right candidate.
To me it isn't so much about wages as much as finding the right person. Asking a full time working foreman to be responsible for sales = 12 hour days on a swing shift (most sales are evenings). Even if the "laboring" end of it is light-duty, you've still gotta be there nearly every minute or the cell phones come out.
I've never gotten past being on site. It's really hard to find quality people.
Best o' luck... and keep us posted, ey ?
R
robdog
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- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #98
will do
I realize the ambition is not likely in most cases.The years of doing this that I have piled up make me ambitious.The fact that the money will be free and clear of any expenses that I have on my main location makes it just that much more desirable. a two man crew makeing about 3k a week before expenses is really good enough to pay two great employees and have about 50% of the money free and clear. Think of spending time in that area,and other nice places in florida at the time of the year I want to be there. dreaming? hopefully not .At first I just have to spend time there and get it going.
I realize the ambition is not likely in most cases.The years of doing this that I have piled up make me ambitious.The fact that the money will be free and clear of any expenses that I have on my main location makes it just that much more desirable. a two man crew makeing about 3k a week before expenses is really good enough to pay two great employees and have about 50% of the money free and clear. Think of spending time in that area,and other nice places in florida at the time of the year I want to be there. dreaming? hopefully not .At first I just have to spend time there and get it going.
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Mr. Sir
Guest
Are you sure you've thought this through, Robdog? It seems to me you don't know what it costs to run a tree crew, even though you claim to have years of experience. Here are some quick weekly numbers I came up with. Do these sound reasonable?
Payroll for two employees - 1200.00
Withholding - 300.00
Worker's Comp - 450.00
Liability Ins - 50.00
Truck & Chipper payments - 500.00
Fuel - 100.00
Maintenance - 50.00
Advertising - 100.00
Property & Office rent - 100.00
Telephone - 25.00
Utilities - 25.00
Miscellaneous - 100.00
I"m sure I've left out a few things, but my point is that your expenses will quickly and easily top $3,000.00 per week.
With the state of the economy and you're being the new guy in town with no client base and no referrals, I just don't see this as a viable business venture. Also, November through March is the slow season here in Florida.
Payroll for two employees - 1200.00
Withholding - 300.00
Worker's Comp - 450.00
Liability Ins - 50.00
Truck & Chipper payments - 500.00
Fuel - 100.00
Maintenance - 50.00
Advertising - 100.00
Property & Office rent - 100.00
Telephone - 25.00
Utilities - 25.00
Miscellaneous - 100.00
I"m sure I've left out a few things, but my point is that your expenses will quickly and easily top $3,000.00 per week.
With the state of the economy and you're being the new guy in town with no client base and no referrals, I just don't see this as a viable business venture. Also, November through March is the slow season here in Florida.
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Jonseredbred
Guest
I think you are light on fuel Brett.
Robdog sure seems to have some wierd accounting idea's.
Robdog sure seems to have some wierd accounting idea's.
