Anyone have any clever setups for moving material by hand? I'd like to find something better than a tarp, and cheaper than a mini. The two things I've looked at most seriously are the JetSled and ArborTrolley. The JetSled is attractively priced, and easy to deal with, while the ArborTrolley carries more weight, and is more feasible for loggy type things, though perhaps not as good for brush?
Options For Manually Moving Material?
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Burnham
Woods walker
Several high school aged footballers, is my advice.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
We will make sleds out of brush. Use larger on bottom and stack smaller up.
Bundle with rope. Great way to utilize some small cuttings of about 10 foot or more.
But we prefer our dingo or winch. Ant trail if they wont work in the situation.
Ant trail can and often includes over sized teenagers/young adults if possible.
Price accordingly and embrace the suck
Bundle with rope. Great way to utilize some small cuttings of about 10 foot or more.
But we prefer our dingo or winch. Ant trail if they wont work in the situation.
Ant trail can and often includes over sized teenagers/young adults if possible.
Price accordingly and embrace the suck
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I've done the brush sled thing, but the results aren't entirely satisfactory. Tying it better might work. What I usually do is big stuff on the bottom, smaller on top. then a running bowline around the end that I pull with. What happens is I sometimes get dig-ins when a branch submarines, and/or shed some of the load on the trip, where pieces fall off.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
You dont pick up what falls off. Make next sled and add it as you get to it again.
Make sure larger bottom pieces butts are foward of the load. I lift those and sled the smaller on top. Nothing "digging " in.
Bundles is where we will bundle the brush and drag it sideways.
Either by hand or winch.
Make sure larger bottom pieces butts are foward of the load. I lift those and sled the smaller on top. Nothing "digging " in.
Bundles is where we will bundle the brush and drag it sideways.
Either by hand or winch.
flushcut
TreeHouser
A large hand truck will help move material easier but an Arb Trolly would be my top suggestion.
Burnham
Woods walker
Is this something you need to be able to carry with you to another place, or will it be for one location?
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Place to place. It needs to fit in the back of a small pickup. In the immediate case, a nissan frontier, but that's the size truck I like, so anything else in the future will likely be similar.
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for prices I'm looking for, the ArborTrolley at $1k isn't prohibitive, but at that price or higher, it really needs to earn it's keep, and be worth the premium over the $110 JetSled.
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for prices I'm looking for, the ArborTrolley at $1k isn't prohibitive, but at that price or higher, it really needs to earn it's keep, and be worth the premium over the $110 JetSled.
Burnham
Woods walker
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Burnham
Woods walker
Not so very heavy. I can lift the end of it without undue strain. With a pair of simple ramps it wouldn't be too taxing to load in a truck bed.
But you need something to pull it with. I've moved it a little bit by hand with a moderate load on...if the surface is flatish, smooth, and firm it's not too hard for a short distance...otherwise, forget it.
But you need something to pull it with. I've moved it a little bit by hand with a moderate load on...if the surface is flatish, smooth, and firm it's not too hard for a short distance...otherwise, forget it.
Burnham
Woods walker
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CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
I have one of those wagons I cant give away. Too damn heavy for hilly terrain.
what ive used for the smaller stuff in the past was the tail of a 3" ratchet strap tied into a loop with a water knot, basically a 4-5ft loop runner
choke bundles of limbs, throw loop over your shoulder and carry it
its slow but its way faster than one or two limbs at a time by hand
never tried an arbor trolley (or the one Notch had), but I think they would work decent, the arbortrolly seems small IMO, I did look at one a while back at a treestuff party, not sold on it to be honest
@metaspencer made a DIY one a while back, he has a great video on it
choke bundles of limbs, throw loop over your shoulder and carry it
its slow but its way faster than one or two limbs at a time by hand
never tried an arbor trolley (or the one Notch had), but I think they would work decent, the arbortrolly seems small IMO, I did look at one a while back at a treestuff party, not sold on it to be honest
@metaspencer made a DIY one a while back, he has a great video on it
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Needs tires.
Buddy of mine modified his for trap shooting. Changed the sides and you could hang the guns and put the ammo in it. Folds up too.
Buddy of mine modified his for trap shooting. Changed the sides and you could hang the guns and put the ammo in it. Folds up too.
Arbor trolleys work great, they even do ok for prying rounds on like a hand truck. If you are hand feeding a chipper i can't possibly imagine anything better for the brush, and since it's not being drug in the ground you have way less raking at the end of the day. Their limitation is that with the exception of the rounds you have to lift the material to load it. Tweaked my back one day lifting a log up on it, so i welded up a log arch so i didn't have to lift stuff, works great for the logs or leaving the limb whole to feed into a bigger chipper, until it's too big to straddle, but then you got the arbor trolley.
Once the logs are to the street you then have to load them, not a small task. I got by a long time with a duct hoist i salvaged, you crank it up, push it over the truck/ trailer, then roll it off. It's all manual, but you're using rigging to do it. I also had a harbor freight truck crane that worked very well, just had to back up to the logs and you could load a pickup truck in a few minutes. Had to tie it into the frame and wired up an atv winch on it, not a possibility for everyone. If i didn't have that i would have likely rigged up a gantry crane type setup, or used another tree for loading with a boom rigged, posted that one here once, i think in my derrick crane thread. Chain falls work well (as a fitter we use them all the time), but little sticks and stuff like to get stuck in them so it's kinda annoying, basically gotta keep it really clean and they do well. Keeping the chain in a bucket is another trick, it'll pay out with minimal management, that's how we work on grating without getting it stuck continuously. Also size the fall for the expected load, a half ton fall works much faster than a 1 ton, which is faster than a 2 ton.
Once the logs are to the street you then have to load them, not a small task. I got by a long time with a duct hoist i salvaged, you crank it up, push it over the truck/ trailer, then roll it off. It's all manual, but you're using rigging to do it. I also had a harbor freight truck crane that worked very well, just had to back up to the logs and you could load a pickup truck in a few minutes. Had to tie it into the frame and wired up an atv winch on it, not a possibility for everyone. If i didn't have that i would have likely rigged up a gantry crane type setup, or used another tree for loading with a boom rigged, posted that one here once, i think in my derrick crane thread. Chain falls work well (as a fitter we use them all the time), but little sticks and stuff like to get stuck in them so it's kinda annoying, basically gotta keep it really clean and they do well. Keeping the chain in a bucket is another trick, it'll pay out with minimal management, that's how we work on grating without getting it stuck continuously. Also size the fall for the expected load, a half ton fall works much faster than a 1 ton, which is faster than a 2 ton.
Eric H-L
Treehouser
This seems reasonably priced. If you don’t have an ATV this could be the reason to get one. https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/yutrax-hc1500-atv-trailer
SeanKroll
Treehouser
I just deleted pictures of a hand truck mod.
I'll get some.
I'll get some.
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I think Bingham is a fan of the JetSled too. That's two good recommendations, and a reasonable cheap starting point. Maybe it works great and I don't have to go any further, maybe it's insufficient, but it'll still get some work done, so the money wouldn't be wasted. What size do you like? The XL fits in the back of the truck. Is that the right size, or too big? Fits more stuff, but it still has to moved...
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