Ivermectin vs. Covid and the vaccine

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you going to take dewormer forever? I was reading that worms are becoming resistant to the stuff. as with anything. long term liver damage is a side effect.
I personally think a few worms in the gut is probably not the worst thing. may even be what keeps me at a svelt 170 while consuming whatever is put in front of me. ive spent a bit of time in India, mexico and, SA and here. im sure ive got them.
Great question and I love your perspective. They have actually found that diversity in the microbiome is more important than what exactly is in there, and in some areas of Africa there are major health benefits associated with hunter-gatherer microbiomes that include parasites, however, that is much more the exception to all the holistic health teachings I have heard over the years.

One of my closest friends (before he got married and had 4 kids) has been battling advanced Lyme for at least 15 years. I was the one that told him he had Lyme, after which he spent 2.5 years going to countless specialists before he found a lyme literate doctor. He recently texted me that the best period he ever had in all those 15 years was the four years after doing Ivermectin. He has been on IV antibiotic drips on and off for years.

And there is another anti-parasitic called fenbendazole, which has become a superstar drug amongst the alternative cancer therapy community. I've spent a lot of hours studying alternative cancer therapies and if the September 13 thread was still around I would have likely been urging Butch to try it. Joe Tippens healed his "incurable" lung cancer with a fenbendazole protocol and you can get fenbendazole over the counter in veterinary medical supplies. See links below.

So no, I don't plan on taking Ivermectin forever. If you do take a close look at the I MASK+ protocol, it only calls for one dose every per week for the first 10 weeks, then one dose every 2 weeks. And it can be used at early-onset or for prevention. I have a friend that just moved down from Brooklyn yesterday and I thought it wouldn't be bad to try this for a minute to see how my body reacted. So I'll go on it for a while and then off as my intuition and body lead me. Most likely just do it for a month or two and then save it for any times when exposure seems probable or if I get it, I'll have everything needed on hand. And I'll start taking herbs to support the liver as that's always a good idea.

Joe Tippens protocol:
 
@tblough Welcome back! LONG time gone, bro. How's your world?
Hi Gary - been lurking when I have a chance just been extremely busy for the last 10 years it seems! Just couldn't stay away from this one apparently. I get a laugh out of all the conspiracy theories and condemnation of science. Covid is easily managed if people were just willing to follow some easy rules. We wear masks where I work at all times; eat outside alone; no in-person meetings; strict social distancing; multiple weekly testing; maximum room occupancy based on room air changes.

Here's some numbers to make a point (and you can check them yourselves if you wish here - Harvard University-wide COVID-19 Testing Dashboard | Harvard University - https://www.harvard.edu/coronavirus/testing-tracing/harvard-university-wide-covid-19-testing-dashboard / MIT has a similar dashboard)
Massachusetts positivity rate 8.4%
Boston positivity rate 4.18%
Cambridge positivity rate (Boston suburb where Harvard/MIT are located) 1.32%
Harvard positivity rate 0.74%

Regarding Harvard's positivity rate, no infections have been traced to on-campus transmission as of 1/7/21 - all were acquired off-campus.
 
Good input. Basic, consistent discipline rules the day...your Harvard peeps are impressive. Thanks for the info.
 
Just found out a good friend had covid. As soon as he started getting sick he took Ivermectin. Said the symptoms were gone the next day. Said he was a little sore for a day or so after. Really nothing to it. I guess there's no way to know if it helped or if this deadly disease just wasn't bad in his particular case. Another friends wife and daughter had it. He works for the railroad so he had to quarantine. Stayed home and took care of them for 2 weeks. He never got sick. Had to have several negative test to return to work. It's confusing about how contagious it is. Also have an older couple that are good friends. Early 80s. Both tested positive. The husband wasn't bad at all. The wife had no symptoms. Didn't affect their daily life at all other than staying home for a couple weeks. Out of the several hundred people I know, this is all of the cases I personally know of.
 
I got the second shot two days ago.......adverse reaction was a sore arm for a day. Got in the other arm to balance the radiation coming from each micro chip.

I had a patient a while back who ended up in the ICU because she took horse dewormer from tractor supply. Back a few weeks after that for drinking her own urine for a week.......ended up in psych unit after electrolytes were corrected.

Daniel, is there any medical benefit to drinking your own urine? I figured you may have researched or tried it.
 
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Yes I have heard of it and done it twice.

There is a history in the use of drinking one's own urine in the Indian ancient health system called Ayurveda.
The theory behind it is that the antibodies in the urine when re-ingested will support a more robust immune repsonse.

I had a friend who was living in India for some time and got a bad case of dysentery. He reported that the only thing that helped was a tall glass of pee first thing in the morning.
There is a small community of back to the land wheatgrass and fresh juice proponents who held a 5-day juice fasting retreat a few years back. They were big proponents of drinking your own urine during fasts. At that point, it's clear and just a bit salty. It doesn't really taste or smell bad. I wasn't down for drinking much but did give it a taste.

Had a long talk with my BF from HS last night. After only missing one day of work in the last 35 years, he had a nasty case of tachycardia that sent him to the hospital within 2 weeks of receiving the first dose of the vaccine. He thinks they aren't related and I agree with him, but he can't be sure. Anyhow he now has a permanent internal defibrilator. The funny thing is he sounded the happiest I've heard him in a long time, maybe a couple of years. He's been so stressed out about his work. He just needed a few days off. After another friend of mine committed suicide last December I took the MD to dinner and asked do you ever think about killing yourself. He replied... "all the time don't you?"
 
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Looks like the covid vaccine by Pfizer killed a doctor in Florida. I have friends that can't wait to get the vaccine... Which is unbelievable to me. How can you trust your health and the health of your family to greedy corporations and the government agencies which have failed in their duty to regulate the greedy corporations and protect the people?

 
My wife and son have had the first vaccine shot so far...she works as COMT (works with eye docs) and is "in peoples' faces" all the time...he is FF. Both OK with first round.

Alex gets his 2nd shot Jan. 27; Lindsay gets hers in approx 1 week.
 
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I just wrote up a fairly thorough explanation of Ivermectin, called Ivermectin a miracle sure for Covid-19. While it contains a lot of the information I have previously posted, I re-post it because it is a more complete piece that can be forwarded to others.

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Ivermectin a “miracle drug” against COVID-19



Ivermectin
is a medication in use since 1981 that is used to treat many types of parasite infestations, including head lice, scabies, and river blindness (onchocerciasis). It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines. Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic agent and also used in veterinary medicine. In 2015 the Nobel Prize in Medicine was awarded jointly to William Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura for discovering avermectin, the precursor to Ivermectin. Ivermectin is a very safe drug, though it is contraindicated in children under 5, pregnant and breastfeeding women, and individuals with kidney or liver damage, and those taking statin and some other drugs (please consult your physician). Between 1995 and 2010 the program using donated ivermectin to prevent river blindness is estimated to have prevented 7 million years of disability whilst costing $257 million. So Ivermectin is already a super-star drug.



Dr. Pierre Kory, MD testified on the effectiveness of Ivermectin before the Homeland Security Committee Meeting: Focus on Early Treatment of COVID-19 December 8, 2020. Dr Kory is s representative of the Front-Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCCA), made up of some of the most highly published and well-known critical care experts in the world with almost 2,000 peer-reviewed publications in the medical literature as well as over 100 years of bedside clinical experience in ICU’s around the country.



Dr Kory said "it is with great pride as well as significant optimism, that I am here to report that our group, led by Professor Paul E. Marik, has developed a highly effective protocol for preventing and early treatment of COVID-19. In the last 3-4 months, emerging publications provide conclusive data on the profound efficacy of the anti-parasite, anti-viral drug, anti-inflammatory agent called ivermectin in all stages of the disease. Our protocol was created only recently after we identified these data. Nearly all studies are demonstrating the therapeutic potency and safety of ivermectin in preventing transmission and progression of illness in nearly all who take the drug.

These data show that ivermectin is effectively a “miracle drug” against COVID-19 "



Dr Kory’s full testimony can be seen here: https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Testimony-Kory-2020-12-08.pdf



I would highly recommend that all investigate and consider the use of Ivermectin as prophylaxis for covid-19 per the protocol developed by the Front-Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCCA). This is the FLCCCA protocol (note Ivermectin is available over the counter in veterinarian suppies)



Here’s a good article that sites the science used by the FLCCCA and looks at both pro and con from a medical perspective: What's Behind the Ivermectin-for-COVID Buzz? - https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/90552





See videos and links below for more information



Excellent results from Ivermectin shown in 4 recent studies:
In the first study, in Egypt, in over 300 patients they took patients who were positive for COVID-19 and identified all of their household members.
And in over 200 of those household members, they told them to take ivermectin. in the other group of COVID-19 patients they did not give the household members ivermectin. Seven percent of those who took ivermectin contracted COVID-19 compared to almost 60 percent of those that didn't prophylaxis with ivermectin. You could see that with ivermectin it absolutely protected almost perfectly most of the household members. And to be clear, it is likely that many of those household members probably were already exposed when they took ivermectin.


Similarly, at the old India institute of medical sciences, many of the physicians on the front lines with high-risk exposures started taking prophylaxis. In those healthcare providers that took ivermectin prophylaxis only 16 percent got sick. While their colleagues, who did not take Ivermectin, 60 percent got the disease.


Another study just came out last week again a randomized controlled trial done in Iran where they prophylaxis again household and healthcare contacts of those with Covid-19, only 2 got sick if they took ivermectin compared to the 10 that did not.


The most encouraging is this study where they gave prophylaxis to healthy citizens in the population. They were not exposed. They were told to take ivermectin for a month. At the end of that month, nobody on Ivermectin group got this disease compared to 11 of those healthy citizens that did not take Ivermectin that did get the disease.
This is an effective therapy.



This study just came out in a French journal and this is extremely important we know about how this pandemic has hit some of our long-term care facilities and nursing homes the hardest. We have had many of our elderly citizens die in nursing homes. In a fortuitous circumstance, in one nursing home in France, there was a scabies outbreak. Ivermectin is very effective against scabies. All of the patients living in that facility were on ivermectin at the time that one of the residents got sick with COVID-19. They were completely protected from the spread. Nobody in that facility got this illness. In local other homes where they were not on Ivermectin 22 of the residents got this disease and if you know anything about this disease the older you are the more frequently you die. Ivermectin saved lives in that nursing home.



The above transcript is from the following video:







Dr Kory who appears in the above video and testified before congress about Ivermectin authored the following paper:











India is treatingCovid-19 with Ivermectin. They don't have a vaccine approved and they might not need a vaccine if their treatment results continue to excel.
From the Indian Express Newspaper: COVID-19 recovery rate in India among highest in the world: Health Ministry - https://indianexpress.com/article/india/covid-19-recovery-rate-in-india-among-highest-in-the-world-health-ministry-7108828/

India has registered a steady decline in the number of daily deaths. The case fatality rate is sustained at 1.45 percent and is consistently decreasing. “While the global figure for recovery rate is 70.27 percent, India is recording 95.31 percent. The USA, Brazil, Russia, and Italy are reporting lesser recovery rates,” the ministry said. India has registered a steady decline in the number of daily deaths. The case fatality rate is sustained at 1.45 per cent and is consistently decreasing. India”s fatality rate is one of the lowest in the world, the ministry said.



I highly recommend looking into the SCIENCE below. Keep in mind that there is no way to legally get emergency authorization for a vaccine for a disease for which there is an approved treatment.



ClinicalTrials - https://www.thecompleteguidetohealth.com/clinicaltrials.html



https://journal.chestnet.org/article/S0012-3692(20)34898-4/fulltext



Also please see Jack Lyons-Weiller's video below on the dangers of the vaccine. Jack is a scientific researcher, who has written several books and conducted many millions of dollars in scientific research.



 
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NPR's Fresh Air has become a propaganda tool for Bill Gates and big Pharma

 
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Conclusions:
The incidence in mortality rates and number of cases is significantly lower among the APOC countries compared to non-APOC countries. That a mass public health preventive campaign against COVID-19 may have taken place, inadvertently, in some African countries with massive community ivermectin use is an attractive hypothesis. Additional studies are needed to confirm it.
 
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Childrenshealthdefense.org is pretty much an organisation of tin foil hat anti vaccers, so quoting their propaganda belongs in the conspiracy thread.

CDC has the number of anaphylactics at 21 out of the first 1,9 million vaccinated.
That is 10 times higher than with other types of vaccines, but still a lot less risk than getting the disease brings with it.
 
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Childrenshealthdefense.org is pretty much an organisation of tin foil hat anti vaccers, so quoting their propaganda belongs in the conspiracy thread.
CDC has the number of anaphylactics at 21 out of the first 1,9 million vaccinated.
That is 10 times higher than with other types of vaccines, but still a lot less risk than getting the disease brings with it.
Ya Stig,

I have found that all RFK Jr's statements of fact to be 100% verifiable. It's actually the CDC that can't be trusted. They have routinely ignored the science on vax induced illness, to the extent that they issue research only backed up by other CDC research. James Lyons-Weiller calls much of that "junk science", and CDC whistleblower, William Thompson came right out and admitted that he had been pressured to destroy data on the MMR -autism link, and that there was a lot of pressure at the CDC intending to hide and deny any links between vax and illness.
 
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I looked at one of the articles cited in the above CHDF article above:
Here is the quote from that article:
The 13 deaths communicated to VAERS do not include any deaths in the state of New York. However, a disturbing news report from Syracuse.com suggests that COVID-19 vaccines could be linked to a shocking number of additional deaths in the elderly in that state.

basically, the CHDF article is suggesting that the actual number of deaths from the vaccine is being under-reported, and using the information about the deaths at a nursing home in NY to support that allegation. Here's what happened at the nursing home. If you read the article carefully


The nursing home began vaccinating residents Dec. 22. So far 193 residents, or 80%, and 113 employees, or less than half the staff, have been vaccinated.

The outbreak at The Commons on St. Anthony in Auburn started Dec. 21 as a wave of post-Thanksgiving Covid-19 cases began hitting the county

There had been no nursing home Covid-19 deaths in Cayuga County until the first three deaths at the Commons were reported Dec. 29.

Since the outbreak began, 21 residents have died at The Commons and three in the hospital

the state Health Department inspected the nursing home’s infection control practices Wednesday and found no deficiencies.


So of approximately 250 residents, there had been no deaths prior to the vaccine being given. 80% of the residents got the vaccine starting Dec 22. One week later on Dec 29 the residents started dying. Since then 24, almost 10% of the residents have died. The Covid-19 death toll at The Commons increased to 32 as of Monday, according to the state.

Interesting to note, of the first 24 that died, only 3 made it to the hospital. That sounds odd to me, but who knows for sure. So did the vax kill any of those 32 people? You can't say for sure, but it sounds quite possible.
I did track down some other interesting articles on the subject:



 
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Strong statement. You came to this conclusion through your thoughtful and diligent research?

Yes.
You chose the wrong person for that kind of sarcasm, Dave.

I subscribe to several national newspapers and follow a lot of stuff on the net in both Danish, German and English.
I thought you realized that I'm joking when I refer to myself as a dumb commie logger, guess I'll have to use more smileys:D

Daniel has posted some of their stuff and to me it all reeks of fanaticism.

We have had 2 deaths among those who have been vaccinated.
One was a psychiatric patient with a lung disease.
He would not let the docs treat him and died of of it.

The other was 91 years old and very weak.
The big question for me is, why waste vaccine on cases like that.

Norway has had 13 deaths, all elderly and weak.
They see no correlation between the vaccine and the deaths, but conclude that those people would have died anyway.
Again, why waste vaccine on them.
That is one problem with socialzed medicine, we treat people who should simply be left to die IMO.

I see the same thing when I go to control for my leukemia.
Folks that have smoked their whole life, are severely overweight to the point where they can hardly walk, and we still treat them for leukemia.

But to Murphy those 15 deaths are a cause to run around in circles, screaming that the sky is falling, and scaring as many as possible away from taking the vaccine.
Any thread he writes in ends up ther same way.

I'm out of here.
 
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