heres how good the pliers wrench is
I went from an absolute hater of pliers to using those instead of anything else where possible, you're looking at a year of absolute abuse, cheater pipes, box end wrenches to extend them, using them for things you shouldn't ever use pliers for, I've been doing my best to break them, and they look brand new, most all knipex pliers are designed to self close when you use them the right way, but I've used the pliers wrench backwards countless times and you can still clamp down on the handles hard enough to where you just about cannot push or pull hard enough to make them slip, its honestly mindblowing the first time you use them
you can feel the quality of the steel, its very hard but has a little flex so you don't shatter them, the cobra pliers have wicked sharp jaws that will cut their own grooves into pipe or rounded bolts fairly easy
you can get the 10" pliers wrench and 10" cobra pliers combo for around $90 on amazon right now, buy it, you won't be disappointed
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