more mini notches

[SkwerI]

If you had more confidence in your hinging ability then maybe you wouldn't have to pry every stem over with a skid steer. :roll:
Your techniques need quite a bit of work before you graduate to the level of being able to teach others.

 

[murphy4trees]

Also Stig,
You're a little harsh there.. have a bit of compassion.. I AM just a hard working arborist, trying to make a living, like everyone else. I don't fall trees all day long... You probably fall 100 trees (or more) to my 1... Having the kind of polished saw skills you get so worked up about is not needed here, nor do I have as much opportunity as a logger to develop that kind of precision. I could do it if I focussed on it, but its not that important to me. I just don't care that much about handling a saw like that. What I do care about is putting trees down in tight drop zones with 100% reliability.. That is where I get my fix. call it ego if you like...

 

[Thor's Hammer]

Daniel, your pathetic excuses for your lack of skill compound your ability to make yourself look like a fool. If you weren't so damn patronising in your interaction, we would be a lot more forgiving.

Seriously dude, your not pushing any envelopes here. This is not the study of quantum mechanics, genetics, linguistics, medicine or astrophysics. Its cutting trees down, nothing more, and your not doing a good job of it.

If you are on the cutting edge, you are holding the knife the wrong way.

 

[murphy4trees]

If you had more confidence in your hinging ability then maybe you wouldn't have to pry every stem over with a skid steer. :roll:
Your techniques need quite a bit of work before you graduate to the level of being able to teach others.

What happened to every man is my teacher? We all can teach Rocky.. somebody... Obviously I can't teach Stig much, but there are plenty of people that can learn. For example... I would think that over 90% of Mid-atlantic arborists have never even seen a plunge cut (used to create a hinge) in person...

Riggs told me once that I need to "keep in mind the level of the audience", implying that I was talking down to stone cold experts.. That's a very self-centered perpective. There are plenty of people that are still learning and these videos have benfits for them.

 

[SkwerI]

Well then go somewhere with a bunch of inexperienced idiots so you can be their hero. Your crap has grown old around here. We aren't here for you to 'teach' us, nobody here is interested in your preachings. This is where we come to relax, not be preached at by some fool. You don't know enough to preach here.

 

[Old Monkey]

One way to know where the far side of your bar is is to use your gunning sites. The lines on the side of your saw that run perpendicular to the bar are for aiming. Pick an object as far away as possible and use it to aim you face cut at. When you are working your back cut if the gunning sites are facing your target, your hinge is parallel. Its a good practice to get into for falling trees.

 

[MooseHunter113]

i think its time for the group hug picture!!!

 

[Blinky]

...I just don't care that much about handling a saw like that.

But Daniel, didn't you state in another thread that you're a 'saw handler' as though you were a specialist... kinda like proverbial CIA 'Weapons man'? So now you don't care about being precise with a chainsaw? You make more conflicting statements than a politician.

What I do care about is putting trees down in tight drop zones with 100% reliability.. That is where I get my fix. call it ego if you like...

Yeah, them 25' wide drop zones are a bitch.

 

[Blinky]

What happened to every man is my teacher?

Yeah... what happened to that?

 

[murphy4trees]

One way to know where the far side of your bar is is to use your gunning sites. The lines on the side of your saw that run perpendicular to the bar are for aiming. Pick an object as far away as possible and use it to aim you face cut at. When you are working your back cut if the gunning sites are facing your target, your hinge is parallel. Its a good practice to get into for falling trees.

Definitely, I almost always gun the backcut. this was shown on the "siberian elm removal" videos... someone, either here or elsewhere made the comment he had never seen that used before. There was some discussion about it.

 

[murphy4trees]

Well then go somewhere with a bunch of inexperienced idiots so you can be their hero. Your crap has grown old around here. We aren't here for you to 'teach' us, nobody here is interested in your preachings. This is where we come to relax, not be preached at by some fool. You don't know enough to preach here.

Thats a very selfish attitude..

 

[MasterBlaster]

Youse guys...

:roll:

 

[murphy4trees]

Chip,
Again nice job of mudslinging... the post quoted was at TB where they put out 11 replies without one comment about the rigging (on the swinging white oak limbs thread).. you guys put up three pages, with all but one post directly relating to the rigging..

The response to this video over there, was one post this AM , when there was 4 pages here.. now its up to two replies, while there are 7 pages here.. Its a far different crowd there eh?

Yeah... what happened to that?

 

[Blinky]

Thats a very selfish attitude..

And yours ISN"T?!! Stroking you own fat ego while is about as selfish as it gets.

But as far as I care, post all the vids you want, show your ass as much as you want, 'teach' as much as you want. Self promotion works, you'll get results.

But know this... Your tree work is AVERAGE in terms of results and lame in terms of innovation, your commentary is embarrassing and all the denial in the world won't change that.

 

[murphy4trees]

Just got this PM from youtube:

Hey Daniel,

I have really enjoyed your videos. It is rare to find someone who is up to date on modern cutting techniques, such as open face cuts and 80% hinge widths like you mentioned recently. Tree felling isn't rocket science yet there are so few people who actually do it well. Most of my competition probably wouldn't even know what a hinge is. Pretty sad. Anyway, keep the videos coming! -Ryman

 

[murphy4trees]

More mudslinging.. good job Chip..
All I've seen from you is pictures of cat rescues.. Put something up yourself and then be my judge..

And yours ISN"T?!! Stroking you own fat ego while is about as selfish as it gets.

But as far as I care, post all the vids you want, show your ass as much as you want, 'teach' as much as you want. Self promotion works, you'll get results.

But know this... Your tree work is AVERAGE in terms of results and lame in terms of innovation, your commentary is embarrassing and all the denial in the world won't change that.

 

[SkwerI]

Just got this PM from youtube:

Hey Daniel,

I have really enjoyed your videos. It is rare to find someone who is up to date on modern cutting techniques, such as open face cuts and 80% hinge widths like you mentioned recently. Tree felling isn't rocket science yet there are so few people who actually do it well. Most of my competition probably wouldn't even know what a hinge is. Pretty sad. Anyway, keep the videos coming! -Ryman

Proof that self promotion will always find a willing audience, no matter how incompetent the promoter. P.T. Barnham proved that over 100 years ago.

 

[pete mctree]

Stig nailed it Daniel sorry. Your ability to turn a simple 3 cut drop into a painfull saga is dissapointing.
If you do not have the prerequisite skills to teach the fine points of sawing DON'T.
If you can't chat, debate & take criticism, DON'T post.
Why not just hang, enjoy this place & quit trying to tell everyone they are doing it wrong?

 

[Blinky]

Daniel, I don't have anything to prove... to you or anybody else. I definitely do far more precise tree care than you, probably more of it too. The cat rescue pictures were taken by someone who sent them to me so I shared them. But I don't have a cameraman on site when I'm working... it seems like an unnecessary expense.

If you were worth the time I could show you some pictures... but you're not.

 

[murphy4trees]

I disagree... great for you if you have the skills to cut a clean notch everytime... BUT given the lack of proper training in the arborist industry and the liklihood that an unintentional dutchman is by far the most common mistake made by arborists (maybe suburban tree cutters would be a better term), I think its best to use the double cut notch be used as SOP on any big or challenging fall.

Stig nailed it Daniel sorry. Your ability to turn a simple 3 cut drop into a painfull saga is dissapointing.
If you do not have the prerequisite skills to teach the fine points of sawing DON'T.
If you can't chat, debate & take criticism, DON'T post.
Why not just hang, enjoy this place & quit trying to tell everyone they are doing it wrong?

 

[sotc]

Looks like a dutchman at 1:29 in your vid

 

[Widow Shooter]

2 cuts for me on a spar that size, and i SUCK at lining shit up could never colour in the lines as a kid either, so no biggie.

I get more $$$ the quicker I get it on the ground, so bottom line for me is 2 cuts instead of 3, 4, 6 etc

and i don't bore cut unless I have to either.

cheers folks!

 

[pantheraba]

[/QUOTE]Originally Posted by Skwerl
Well then go somewhere with a bunch of inexperienced idiots so you can be their hero. Your crap has grown old around here. We aren't here for you to 'teach' us, nobody here is interested in your preachings. This is where we come to relax, not be preached at by some fool. You don't know enough to preach here.[/QUOTE]

Thats a very selfish attitude..

I am with Murphy on this one...some of the guys on this forum DO know a whole lot more than I do or ever will. I appreciate the time Dan takes to put out these videos. Reading the comments of the pros about his videos is instructional in itself...Willie (SOTC) commented that he noticed a dutchman at 1:29...I went back and, sure enough, there it was. He saw something I did not and took the time to point it out. That in itself was instructional for me. Without Dan's video there would have not been any exchange of info.

People post videos for different reasons...and putting it out for others to see is inviting comment...some tactful, some helpful, some rude. But, just like the vids are posted for different reasons, folks can get different things from them. Some of the techniques are interesting to see done, some are new (to some of us with limited experience) and some may be dangerous. That is where I like to see where the pro fallers, loggers, arborists weigh in and give their input.

 

[Bodean]

Who is Riggs?

and I think it's funny someone referred to Willie as a Punk. Ha!

 

[Old Monkey]

His a punk.