MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
If I'm ever in that position at all, it isn't for very long.
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Porkbrick
TreeHouser
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NeTree
Guest
Wow.
flushcut
TreeHouser
WOW what a horrible way to go.
Old Monkey
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Wouldn't his friction hitch run before the saddle broke?
top_notch
Treehouser
That's a bummer! RIP
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Wondering if the climber was working while being attached to the ball, like a rotten tree and he used his lanyard for positioning or something? As MB said, when attached to both the tree and crane tends to be pretty brief. A terrible thing.
flushcut
TreeHouser
You would think so.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
In a nutshell.
wiley_p
Climbing Up
Good question. A VT will break loose around 1800-2000 pound on a single line, working on the doubled rope it might take longer. I wouldnt want that much force on a high mod bridge. Also that much force is going to hurt really bad. Or worse yet, he was using 2 lanyards one on the hook and one around the stem.
FJR
Treehouser
I was also thinking, if the crane was cabling or booming up, couldn't he have ran his entire life line through his friction hitch and stayed attached to his lanyard in the tree? I know it is different in the heat of the moment, just trying to understand the situation.
OTGBOSTON
punk in drublic
I can poke around for more details
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
I have done a number of jobs where the crane operator doesn't have a view of the activity in the tree do to a structure, and if you add in brush from other trees being in the way, a lot of jobs..why just yesterday..... When another person is being the"eyes" as we call it, I don't think that it is an omen for disaster, but no doubt that it makes the work somewhat more inherently dangerous, especially if something unusual came up. With the guys I work with, often the person relaying what to do to the operator, is a former and sometimes still operator himself (semi retired), that does seem to help quite a lot. One thing, voice communications makes the process go longer, especially without the two experienced operators communicating. With the chainsaw noise and the crane engine going, sometimes it can be somewhat hard to hear. An experienced operator would seem to be essential in this type of situation.
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
The signaler having to go back and forth is much more a rarity. I can only recall one job where that would have been the case, but probably there were a couple more. I think we passed the signal between two guy on that job.
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NeTree
Guest
This could have been prevented with a pair of Motorolas.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
I use a cellphopne.
OTGBOSTON
punk in drublic
Or by using a tree company that owns a crane and the operator and climber work together all the time...
sotc
Dormant hero!!
Thats rare here, I don't know of a single company set up that way in the state
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
Man, I worked five years for a company like that.
wiley_p
Climbing Up
What are you referencing Willie? The only crane company I use includes me on a short list because of the protocols I insist upon. Good wireless comms is one of them as well as load calcs, site survey, and knowing which operator is going to be on site, amongst other requirements.
okietreedude
Treehouser
There is only one crane comp here Ill use. There have been a couple deals where the operator couldnt see but there was more than one set of eyes helping out too.
