Leaner

[Wwallace52590]

So I’ve got this down only job to do around the corner from my house, there’s power lines about 95ft in the direction of the lean. Used a laser to find where the tip should land. If it doesn’t drift I could just fell it. What would you guys do? I’ve got to go up a little bit regardless to take out a few branches that would hit the roof otw down. Should I just “top” it like halfway up? Kind of sketch’s me out I don’t want it to barber chair on me while tied to it.

If I just fell it would I be better off with a high stump or a low stump? I leaning towards low to minimize drift. In my head a low stump with a humbbolt notch would get in on the ground quick as possible. Is that right or is my brain malfunctioning.

 

[flushcut]

I’d probably shoot a line in it and pull from near the opposite direction of the lean and swing it into the lay. The pull line is set like a stiff arm in football but instead of pushing you are pulling, supporting the weight.

There are several good threads on controlling barberchair. The coos bay cut, boring the back cut, you can even wrap the trunk with chains and wedges. From the pic it doesn’t appear to be a 90’er.

 

[SeanKroll]

How tall? From the looks, it is not close to 95'.

Chaining the trunk can help with barberchairs if not using other means of controlling BC (or with other means).

What's in the lay?

 

[Build2Island]

Topping it halfway up, especially with barberchair concerns is worrisome. Watched a coworker barberchair an alder of similar height and lean condition last week during a topping cut. I've been told smaller pieces are better in these situations.

 

[SeanKroll]

Doesn't look like a bc-prone species. Pine?

There should be an anti-bc thread for techniques.

 

[Burnham]

If the height is how it appears to be, that is, well short of the power line, I'd probably just fall it. A pine is not likely to BC, but any of several methods mentioned by others (and I'll add have a properly running saw with a very sharp chain and don't dilly dally around ) will make it a sure thing.

Perhaps you could avoid climbing and removing limbs if you put in a tight restraint line anchored to the left of the place the picture was taken from...that will force the tree to swing away from the house as it falls.

 

[davidwyby]

If I was more of a climber and less a faller I’d piece it down. TIP of another tree. Small pieces small problems.


Being as I am more of a faller than a climber, if it was me I would swing cut it away from the house and the lines. This is also a lot faster and safer for the tree man. There are several ways of swinging a tree, not to be trusted with valuable targets so perhaps a tether line so it can’t reach targets.


Are you competent at bore cutting?

If so, maybe bore cut as high as you safely can, either with no face so the butt stays attached to the stump, or a very open face that will not close so that it stays attached. Then break it down from the top once it’s on the ground. If you used a face, you could angle it away from the house. When you do your back cut, leave the compression side of the hinge a bit thin, and the tension side thick, a simple and pretty reliable redirect cut. A benefit of angling it as such is that now your hinge is angled away from the lean similar to a coos bay cut which *should* reduce tendency to chair.

Not likely a barberchair prone tree but it is a lot of lean.


Another idea. Just take all the limbs and top off to reduce weight and height, then fell normally, that species should not chair without weight.

 

[davidwyby]

Here is a good thread on anchor swinging

Thread 'Tethered leaner - improvement?'

Sep 5, 2023

Skip to 5:20…or watch the whole shenanigans.

I was afraid to tighten the rope more, for fear of tearing the hinge.

Woulda coulda should moved the anchor point to the rear.

I wonder if I shouldn’t have done two hinges 90° to each other. One to stand the tree up, and one to fell it.

Or one angled 45° between them?
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• davidwyby
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• Forum: Tree Felling and Rigging

 

[davidwyby]

Doesn't look like a bc-prone species. Pine?

There should be an anti-bc thread for techniques.

I think I started one? I know I have some sketches.

 

[lumberjack]

If it'd clear the wires and there was room, I'd drop it whole ~45* away from the house, assuming it hinges like the pines we have here.

 

[Wwallace52590]

If the height is how it appears to be, that is, well short of the power line, I'd probably just fall it. A pine is not likely to BC, but any of several methods mentioned by others (and I'll add have a properly running saw with a very sharp chain and don't dilly dally around ) will make it a sure thing.

Perhaps you could avoid climbing and removing limbs if you put in a tight restraint line anchored to the left of the place the picture was taken from...that will force the tree to swing away from the house as it falls.

the limb i was goiong to go and take off is the lowest one u see there. The tree is leaning probably 25-30 degrees away from the house, ill probably just go up taje that one limb that would smack the roof otw down and fall it.

 

[Wwallace52590]

Doesn't look like a bc-prone species. Pine?

There should be an anti-bc thread for techniques.

yes its a pine

 

[Wwallace52590]

If the height is how it appears to be, that is, well short of the power line, I'd probably just fall it. A pine is not likely to BC, but any of several methods mentioned by others (and I'll add have a properly running saw with a very sharp chain and don't dilly dally around ) will make it a sure thing.

Perhaps you could avoid climbing and removing limbs if you put in a tight restraint line anchored to the left of the place the picture was taken from...that will force the tree to swing away from the house as it falls.

so if i want to minimize the distance the tip of the tree hits at, am i better off cutting a high stump or low stump when making the felling cut?

 

[Burnham]

High, with a wide-open bird's mouth face. As soon as your back cut proceeds far enough for the tree to just begin to fall, stop cutting. You want the hinge to hold as long as possible; maybe you'll even get lucky and it won't break loose at all.

 

[Wwallace52590]

so the laser i have is just a super basic one that tells distance and angles, not a forestry laser, what would be the cheapest tool i could get that i could find the height of the tree with? clinometer? is that what they are called i cant remeber