And tommorow is a NEW day!

If you can live without direct and constant support from another human being, then fine. But an unborn infant's rights do not trump the adult's rights in my opinion.
 
No doubt it's a complicated issue, for sure, Skwerl.

Consider the old riddle:

A woman is on her way to an abortion clinic. As she steps out of the car at her clinic, a mugger stabs her, and steals her purse. His knife kills the unborn child. Legally, he can be charged with murder; should he?
 
Shouldn't there be some line in the sand? somewhere?

The compassionate and man of conscience person in you is asking that, and it's not a question to be scoffed at or taken lightly. What other choice is there, but to leave it up to individuals, however, with whatever support mechanisms can be put into place, if no agreement can be found for a basic premise for looking into the matter.
 
The compassionate and man of conscience person in you is asking that, and it's not a question to be scoffed at or taken lightly. What other choice is there, but to leave it up to individuals, however, with whatever support mechanisms can be put into place, if no agreement can be found for a basic premise for looking into the matter.

We have support mechanisms. They're called "laws"; which, by definition, are a product of the opinions of the majority enforced onto the minority for the greater good of the society.
 
That's a horrible but not uninteresting scenario to think about. I wonder how a woman in that situation, who recovered herself, would tend to think about it, I mean the injustice done to her baby that was about to be killed anyway.
 
To hell with shaveing and getting all cleaned up. I want a hard workin man to get elected somewehre. seems like it the hardworken men that are down to earth and could get something done.

tell it like it is....

when does one sign up to run for president???


President Starks 2012
 
Congressman Bernie Sanders , Vermont , started out as Burlingtons' crazy socialist mayor ... wound up in Washinon DC. GOOD LUCK Andy !
 
That is interesting Erik.
I BELIEVE this country was founded on CHOICE and free will.
You want to own guns? Fine. You don't want to own guns, fine.
You want to believe in God, fine. You don't want to believe in God, fine.
If you want to have an abortion, fine. If you don't want to have an abortion, fine.
You want to drive a humonous car that gets 6MPG, fine. You want to save the Earth and drive a car that gets 50MPG, fine.
Why should I make these decisions? How is that MY right? Even if I were president, how is it MY right to decide what you should and shouldn't do? I don't get that, some SOB that doesn't know anything about me, gets to decide what part of the constitution HE THINKS applys to me?
Then we have people trying to DEMAND what parts apply to me.
You don't like abortion, that is fine, spread the word, tell everyone. Go protest and councel at the clinics. But until you have walked the that persons shoes, who are you, or I, to judge?

I have to say, You are the smartest redneck, I've come across.
I really like what you are saying, it could have led to an interesting debate here, if it hadn't been turned into yet another anti abortion rally!

Good luck.
 
The lady might have changed her mind. I would imagine that some do.

my wife mother did. on the table even though she was in her 40s and the dr said there was a good chance of major health issues if she proceeded with the pregnancy. i think anyone that stabs an innocent intentionally should be prosecuted to the max. forget all the mamby pamby mental this, emotional that
 
I have to say, You are the smartest redneck, I've come across.
I really like what you are saying, it could have led to an interesting debate here, if it hadn't been turned into yet another anti abortion rally!

Good luck.

4 years of college will do that. I is an edumcated redneck. :lol:

I think it's a very interesting question; shame nobody seems to be willing to play the part of defense counsel.

It's not a bait to argument. :)
 
That is interesting Erik.
I BELIEVE this country was founded on CHOICE and free will.
You want to own guns? Fine. You don't want to own guns, fine.
You want to believe in God, fine. You don't want to believe in God, fine.
If you want to have an abortion, fine. If you don't want to have an abortion, fine.
You want to drive a humonous car that gets 6MPG, fine. You want to save the Earth and drive a car that gets 50MPG, fine.
Why should I make these decisions? How is that MY right? Even if I were president, how is it MY right to decide what you should and shouldn't do? I don't get that, some SOB that doesn't know anything about me, gets to decide what part of the constitution HE THINKS applys to me?
Then we have people trying to DEMAND what parts apply to me.
You don't like abortion, that is fine, spread the word, tell everyone. Go protest and councel at the clinics. But until you have walked the that persons shoes, who are you, or I, to judge?

So, if I want to drive drunk around town, you'd let me? I haven't directly hurt anyone, so you'd be ok with all that? Until my luck ran out I guess.

What if I wanted to shoot heroin, operate a shooting range in my backyard, piss in public, and film porno in front of the local high school - you'd let me do that also?
 
I know I'm coming in way late here and all but just in case it hasn't already been said...

Andy, you're not retarded enough to be a Mayor.
 
That is interesting Erik.
I BELIEVE this country was founded on CHOICE and free will.
You want to own guns? Fine. You don't want to own guns, fine.
You want to believe in God, fine. You don't want to believe in God, fine.
If you want to have an abortion, fine. If you don't want to have an abortion, fine.
You want to drive a humonous car that gets 6MPG, fine. You want to save the Earth and drive a car that gets 50MPG, fine.
Why should I make these decisions? How is that MY right? Even if I were president, how is it MY right to decide what you should and shouldn't do? I don't get that, some SOB that doesn't know anything about me, gets to decide what part of the constitution HE THINKS applys to me?
Then we have people trying to DEMAND what parts apply to me.
You don't like abortion, that is fine, spread the word, tell everyone. Go protest and councel at the clinics. But until you have walked the that persons shoes, who are you, or I, to judge?

Does this also mean that we can run a saw of our choice? Like Stihl or Husky or a Poulan?
 
4 years of college will do that. I is an edumcated redneck. :lol:

I think it's a very interesting question; shame nobody seems to be willing to play the part of defense counsel.

It's not a bait to argument. :)

I've played the part of defense counsel in one or moreof the numerous other threads about abortion, we've had.
I get tired of repeating the same old arguments over and over.
I don't really get off on this flogging a dead horse thing, vegetarians don't get turned on by stuff that involve dead animals:D
 
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So, if I want to drive drunk around town, you'd let me? I haven't directly hurt anyone, so you'd be ok with all that? Until my luck ran out I guess.

What if I wanted to shoot heroin, operate a shooting range in my backyard, piss in public, and film porno in front of the local high school - you'd let me do that also?

And more semantics. But they were meant to come.
No, driving drunk is the same as putting a gun to your head and everyone else on the road. You have the right to drive, but not impaired. That is infringing upon another's right to live. Accident or not.

Drugs is a Grey area for me. I am for the legalization of Marijuana. Anything harder than that I don't agree with. I've seen what it can do, and how it affects families. Then it becomes an infringement upon their rights due to theft and abuse. Much the same can be said of alcohol.

You want a shooting range? Five acres, build a berm and shoot withing daylight hours in a safe manner. Five acres due to the amount of berm I think is necessary, and that should be enough room to not bother the neighbors too badly.

You don't already piss in public?

Shoot porn at the High School. Well it seems most teens with camera phones have already beat you too that one!

Run any saw you want, but I am pushing to abolish the new Poulan line until they can be retooled to a decent quality standard!

It's official, I am now officially a Mayoral candidate! Took an hour to fill out all the paper work. Lots and lots of disclosure reports. Wife isn't all that happy about it, but it should be wild for everyone!
 
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