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TreeDimensional
Guest
I have had this video for about a year. Is he right?
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Interesting vid. I believe that it's a Brit thing.
lumberjack
Young man on the go
I skipped most of it, but basically it was a head leaner that was too skinny to put a notch/ bored backcut in standard wise, so he stuck the backcut in at an angle, boring it in and then tripped the strap?
That would work, but unless it's a super brittle tree I would have just cut the damn thing. If it was fairly brittle I probably would have Coos Bay'ed it.
Slanted back cuts are good for cutting leads too close to a lead that is staying. He wasn't wrong, but it seems like alot of futzing around for minimal gain.
That would work, but unless it's a super brittle tree I would have just cut the damn thing. If it was fairly brittle I probably would have Coos Bay'ed it.
Slanted back cuts are good for cutting leads too close to a lead that is staying. He wasn't wrong, but it seems like alot of futzing around for minimal gain.
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
I assumed he did it on that tree to show the technique, seemed that a regular whack job would have sufficed.
lumberjack
Young man on the go
But if the tree is too thin to sink a 5" wide bore cut in, then I'd either do a regular backcut, Coos Bay backcut, or Coos Bay cut. I don't see anything horibly wrong with the slanted backcut, but I don't see it being a huge help either.
SkwerI
Treehouser
Exactly, Carl. If the tree is too small to bore cut it then you should be able to make a standard back cut fast enough to prevent splitting/barberchair. How long does it take to make a 4" back cut on a 10" tree anyway? Just cut the dang thing already.
Burnham
Woods walker
We've seen this one before, too 
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Same conversation, same points made...
.Same conversation, same points made...
Burnham
Woods walker
Not at all . It was a good discussion last time, too.
. It was a good discussion last time, too.
sotc
Dormant hero!!
Clever enough trick. As a head leaner and having another tree hung up in giving more head lean, I think it could be usefull in a slightly more dire scenario. I have seen trees in that situation blow up at the first touch of a saw in the back
Tommy_B
Clutching at saws...
Carl, What's a Coos Bay cut? Not heard of it before.
Thor's Hammer
Wolfish. Sometimes Bites.
Thats Mike Hill in the video, user name 'treebogan' on here.
he was using the small tree as a demonstration, but I would opine that Mike knows more about big tree falling / logging than almost anybody I know. He's a Kiwi, and spent his formative years cutting HUGE Cuppressus for the big kiwi yarding outfits.
he was using the small tree as a demonstration, but I would opine that Mike knows more about big tree falling / logging than almost anybody I know. He's a Kiwi, and spent his formative years cutting HUGE Cuppressus for the big kiwi yarding outfits.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
I'm gonna do that the next chance I get, but I can't imagine every really needing it. Interesting cut, rawk on Mike Hill! 
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
I was wondering at first why he didn't plunge up higher and cut down to the hinge...seems a bit easier, then it occurred that plunging in right behind the face, might ensure a more precise hinge. With a leaner and a big drop zone, it doesn't seem very critical.
SkwerI
Treehouser
The only time it would be needed it would pinch your saw. If it didn't pinch your saw then it wasn't necessary anyway. I think the entire premise is a boat load of fail.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
How about if you were throwing a tree up a steep incline?
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Stump shot! Good thinking.
SkwerI
Treehouser
If the tree is inclined to split then it will pinch your saw when you try to make that cut. If the tree isn't inclined to split then you don't need to waste your time. Even in the video he almost got his saw stuck. I absolutely would not recommend this cut under any circumstances.
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Brian, where do you see the inclination to get the saw stuck, with the bore cut or the trip cut?
Thor's Hammer
Wolfish. Sometimes Bites.
Brian, Mike has a boatload more experience than you at this kind of thing. If you don't like it, fine, but quit being such a sourpuss. It works, and works well.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
Word @ teh sour pt
Once about every ten years we have a real good storm here.
A lot of young stands like the one in the video will be knocked all or partially over.
A tree like that , standing in a 45 degree angle with other trees leaning against it will blow up as soon as you touch a saw to the backside of it.
You'll only " cut the dang thing already" once, then you won't cut any more trees.
The Finn cut is useful for small trees with a lot of tension, bowed down by heavy snowfall for example.
Mostly forestry applications,true, but that doesn't make it a bad tecnique.
Tommy_B
Clutching at saws...
Good trick to have in the back of your mind. You might never need it, but you never know!!
Burnham
Woods walker
Try this thread, from the old TH.
https://www.masterblasterhome.com/showthread.php?t=9410&highlight=coos+bay
And this one, too.
https://www.masterblasterhome.com/showthread.php?t=9510&highlight=coos+bay
Tommy_B
Clutching at saws...
Thank you Burnham
