Wall of Shame: Wannabe Experts

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I actually would feel much better about that failure, knowing it was not bad material, but rather bad installation of the swage. Poor quality cable you cannot fix...poor quality assembly, you can.
 
I actually would feel much better about that failure, knowing it was not bad material, but rather bad installation of the swage. Poor quality cable you cannot fix...poor quality assembly, you can.
I agree. I will put a new eye on it and use it for an extension or something. The new cable is not galv, (oily messy) and much nicer and more supple. Longer too,
 
That bloke doing the talking head stuff knows considerably less than my dog about that.

I think the thing that fascinates us about this is the ambition of the guys involved. This is a very very high risk operation performed by people who, ostensibly at least, seem to know what they’re doing (trucks, bobcat etc)
It’s not the usual homeowner/ladder/supermarket saw comedy.
I just keep asking myself “what were you thinking?” It doesn’t make any sense.
 
Sadly, at least in my area, there is so much demand for tree work, that anybody with a little motivation can get by on the less technical jobs. Some of these guys start growing faster than their knowledge should allow. There is also the money factor. That could usage been a $5,000 tree from an experienced and qualified co that they lowballed at $2,500.

Speaking of growth by tree cos, the number of AT cranes, Palfingers, Merlos, Sennabogans, and spider lifts around here is mind boggling.
 
My grandpa used to say, “You don’t know what you don’t know”.

But if I don’t know how much umph that tree needs and how much that rope will hold, I will find out first.

Not having the motivation or desire or the realization of the need of that knowledge is the problem.

People that are “knowledge resistant” instead of seekers.
 
Speaking of growth by tree cos, the number of AT cranes, Palfingers, Merlos, Sennabogans, and spider lifts around here is mind boggling.
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The game is changing, as usual the US is 5/10 years ahead of Europe with regards to mechanization. But it’s happening over here as well.
 
That bloke doing the talking head stuff knows considerably less than my dog about that.

I think the thing that fascinates us about this is the ambition of the guys involved. This is a very very high risk operation performed by people who, ostensibly at least, seem to know what they’re doing (trucks, bobcat etc)
It’s not the usual homeowner/ladder/supermarket saw comedy.
I just keep asking myself “what were you thinking?” It doesn’t make any sense.
With the right debtload, a person could buy all of that gear in one day.
 
With the right debtload, a person could buy all of that gear in one day.




I’m a little less black and white about these things, most people aren’t just good or bad at this job, these guys may have had a good rep before this.
As @Dave Shepherd said, maybe underpriced, maybe it seemed doable.
It’s rarely one mistake, rather a series of poor decisions leading to this.
The trick is stopping the mistakes and saying “this is too risky, let’s stop, rethink and do whatever it takes to get this done properly, cos the alternative could be on a viral video on every tree forum for the next six months..”
 
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