Stihl 440Mag vs. 460...

[Al Smith]

I also have a small Stihl mount 32" bar but it seldom gets used .If it's normal stuff it gets wacked with a 20" and larger stuff with a large saw and a 36" which is very seldom .

In Stihl mounts I've got 24's ,28's ,they never get used for some reason .

 

[lumberjack]

My 660 has a 20" bar on it, and my 088KD has a 21"

I have a 28" and 36" for it though I normally keep the 20" on the 660 and a 41" on the 088.

 

[Burnham]

My 460 wears a 28" bar, running full chisel full skip chain. I'd not expect to run anything longer than that except in an emergency.

Hell I've ran a 044 with a 36" bar, regular chain. Ain't nothin to it but to do it.

Your call...heck Carlito, you do all sorts of things I wouldn't, so no shocker there

 

[lumberjack]

Back when I did it, I was 18ish and the 44 was the biggest saw I had.

The max length, IMO, varies with the person's expectations. Now that I don't want to sit behind a log all day getting it bucked up into pieces we can man handle, I bought some bigger saws and a mini.

 

[rangerdanger]

We ran a 36 on our 460 one day. We were in a pinch, needed the 36 bar, and the 660 had some problems. It pulled it no problem through the 50"ish DBH Burr Oak.

 

[lumberjack]

It gets boring waiting for it to get through the wood, and expensive while looking at your help just standing around.

 

[brendonv]

I agree with Carl.

It's not something you want to do if you need to make firewood pieces on a job. Having a mini enables me to cut less, and move bigger chunks. Plus I hate making firewood.

A 460 is perfect matched with the 20", in fact, if I was ever to get a 660 it would wear a 20" also. Baby tree's here.

 

[Al Smith]

Depends on how you look at it I suppose .An 066/660 is perfect match for a 36" running 3/8" chain .Any place other than the PNW it's about all you will ever need,with a few exceptions of course .

 

[MasterBlaster]

A 38" bar on a 044/046?

Too Freaking Long!!!

Anyone remember that?

 

[Al Smith]

No I didn't remember but we all pretty much know there is no such thing as a 38" bar .

 

[MasterBlaster]

Ha! I meant a 36" bar!

 

[PCTREE]

FWIW I have 2 primary saws that I use day in day out. MS200t and an 046. The 46 is over 10years old an still kickin. I run a 21" bar and keep a 30" in the truck for the rare occasion. Damn good saw.

 

[squisher]

I love my 46's. They wear 24" bars now, y'all have slowly converted me to the longer bars. Any longer needed and I move up in CC's.

 

[Al Smith]

That bar thing just depends on where you are at .Most 046's in these parts wear 24"s also . The 044's that are left are 20" runners .

I don't know how it is in other parts but the boys miss the 044's in this area and try to keep them running as long as they can .

 

[squisher]

Meh I've never owned a 44. I've run them, I'll stick with my 46's.

 

[Al Smith]

Now of days you have a choice in the mid sized Stihls,Ms 441 or Ms 460 and most pick the later . A few pounds heavier and a whole lot more grunt,no brainer .

 

[squisher]

I thought the 441 was heavier than a 44, which would put it almost identical to a 460. Anyone, got the stats?

 

[Al Smith]

Same,same.14.6 pounds bar bones saw .

 

[Al Smith]

Correction .ms 441-ms 460 14.6 pounds .Dont know about the 440/044 .

 

[squisher]

Yah, at equal weight the 460 is a no brainer to buy imo.

 

[DTW902]

24" on my 460, 36" on the 660 and 2095. The smaller saws wear 18" and 20" bars....

 

[sawinredneck]

My Big bore woods ported 046 pulls the 25" with nothing but authority. Dave and I ran side by side and I beat his new 460 just by a hair. But when I put the 32" on it is when it's happy. I can bury it in an Osage Orange and it just pulls and pulls. Yes it's slow, but nothing cuts fast in that crap!
I've seen a stock 046 with a 32" buried in Oak, I wouldn't want to run that saw all day! It was painful to watch.
For the 441 to the 460, I'd still get the 460. They SAY the 441 will pull a 28" with ease and a lot more comfortably than the 460. I want the power!
Again, 440 to 460 for what I mainly do, it's the same as 361 vs. 440, I'd take the 440. The weight is bairley noticeable and the power is.

 

[wiley_p]

I'll put my work chain against anybody.

That said, I run a 440 with a 32" bar and regularly dump 30" diameter trees. A 460 has more torque than a 440, but it weighs over a pound more, at the end of then day it can matter a whole bunch.

 

[sotc]

I've ran a 36" on my 460 plenty of times. If you don't have a bigger saw and you need a 36" bar, don't hesitate. That said, I run a 36" on my 660 usually and have a 42" for it. I have a 24" and a 32" on my 460s at the moment

 

[stig]

Now of days you have a choice in the mid sized Stihls,Ms 441 or Ms 460 and most pick the later . A few pounds heavier and a whole lot more grunt,no brainer .

I have both and IMO comparing them the way you do, is like comparing, say, a Duesenberg SJ to a Dodge V10 pickup truck.
Sure the Dodge has more power, but the running caracteristics of the two are so different as to make a straight comparison impossible.

There are more to a saw than pulling power. Things such as vibrations and noise level( I know,don't try talking about noise level to someone who modifies saws!) and the new filtration system counts too.
Or at least to me they do!