Ha! Good Eskimo solution. But what if you can't get to the ice floe? What if I can't get on my paddle board and get out far enough for exposure to take over?
But I'm not dead yet ... Age and climbing
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Ha! Good Eskimo solution. But what if you can't get to the ice floe? What if I can't get on my paddle board and get out far enough for exposure to take over?
squisher
THE CALM ONE!!!!
There will be no ice floe for Jim. Global warming from industrialized farming will have melted it all.
As for you, I think the ocean is ripe for dying if you just want to paddle into the sunset.
As for you, I think the ocean is ripe for dying if you just want to paddle into the sunset.
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
Ooo, you got him!
Good call. But you know, I'm surprised suicide or assisted suicide is not a bigger topic these days with the #s of old folks rapidly rising. I predict it will become a hot topic as more people live longer but many aren't living well due to physical or mental health issues.Of course many people of age are living remarkably well due to modern medicine and modern health awareness and healthy lifestyles but many aren't.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
I dont consider a nursing home to be much of an option at all.
Its 5000 a month to "live" in our nursing home. Screw that, if I have any money left, and cant find an ice berg big enough to hold me, I am going to have an accident and let my kids have the money.
I have spent many, many years around nursing homes.....thats enough for me.
Not saying some people dont fit right in....its a good option for some people. Just strikes me as a goddamn expensive ware house for old people.
Its 5000 a month to "live" in our nursing home. Screw that, if I have any money left, and cant find an ice berg big enough to hold me, I am going to have an accident and let my kids have the money.
I have spent many, many years around nursing homes.....thats enough for me.
Not saying some people dont fit right in....its a good option for some people. Just strikes me as a goddamn expensive ware house for old people.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
No, no big waves.
Scare the hell out of me right at the end, plus, I am so buoyant I would probably pop up on the back side like a bobber and live through it!
Nope, I am gonna go sit on my hill with the old Indian Chief.
Scare the hell out of me right at the end, plus, I am so buoyant I would probably pop up on the back side like a bobber and live through it!
Nope, I am gonna go sit on my hill with the old Indian Chief.
Dude you are funny as hell!
Having an "accident"- that way your kids could still get your life insurance because an accident isn't suicide, right?
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
I think most life insurance policies will pay up if the suicide is after a certain time from when the policy was taken out.
Here where suicide is not uncommon, you can find people saying what a good family man a person was because after their business went bust, they chose to let their policy keep their family from destitution. If you owe the Yakuza money though, they likely will still go after the policy claimants after the funeral is over. Sympathy not being one of their better assets.
Here where suicide is not uncommon, you can find people saying what a good family man a person was because after their business went bust, they chose to let their policy keep their family from destitution. If you owe the Yakuza money though, they likely will still go after the policy claimants after the funeral is over. Sympathy not being one of their better assets.
FireFighterZero
Captain Zero!
Maybe? Been trying to buy life insurance for several years now.
Cant seem to get it done. I had not thought about the life insurance angle.
Cant seem to get it done. I had not thought about the life insurance angle.
Burnham
Woods walker
This is a tough subject. Having financial resources is key to making it not suck, imo...though attitude is nearly, maybe even equally, as important.
I saw my wife's parents move from their home of more than 50 years into a much above average independent living/assisted living/dementia care/full on nursing care facility (residents could move through all of the available options as their needs changed) and for them it was wonderful. They went from stressing about house maintenance they could no longer keep up with to zero concerns on that front, moved to medical care right at hand if an emergency occurred rather than the unknown if something overcame either one of them, and to having a huge increase in social events and engagements beyond their limited options in their own home, which they both took total advantage of. It was a complete win for them, added more than a decade and a half to their "good life", imo.
I also managed my mother's move into an about average assisted care facility after my father died, watched her take no advantage of the opportunities for social life no matter how much her family and the staff tried to help her, and hate everything about her life from then until her death.
It can go either way, and how we approach life changes is what makes or breaks it.
That said, I'd hate to be in a "facility" too, at least from my present position...that is subject to change, I reckon
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I saw my wife's parents move from their home of more than 50 years into a much above average independent living/assisted living/dementia care/full on nursing care facility (residents could move through all of the available options as their needs changed) and for them it was wonderful. They went from stressing about house maintenance they could no longer keep up with to zero concerns on that front, moved to medical care right at hand if an emergency occurred rather than the unknown if something overcame either one of them, and to having a huge increase in social events and engagements beyond their limited options in their own home, which they both took total advantage of. It was a complete win for them, added more than a decade and a half to their "good life", imo.
I also managed my mother's move into an about average assisted care facility after my father died, watched her take no advantage of the opportunities for social life no matter how much her family and the staff tried to help her, and hate everything about her life from then until her death.
It can go either way, and how we approach life changes is what makes or breaks it.
That said, I'd hate to be in a "facility" too, at least from my present position...that is subject to change, I reckon
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Burnham
Woods walker
If we ignore it, or say "I'll put a barrel in my mouth", or think we can just work until we die, no problem...that is not reality.
By the time most of us are not able to take care of ourselves, we may well not be able to "do the deed"...not for lack of will, but for lack of ability. Mental, physical, hardware.
Sux, but that's what I have seen, from up close.
By the time most of us are not able to take care of ourselves, we may well not be able to "do the deed"...not for lack of will, but for lack of ability. Mental, physical, hardware.
Sux, but that's what I have seen, from up close.
The thing to do is to prepare yourself for it, mentally.
To most people, suicide is not an option, simply because the idea of doing it has never ebntered their mind.
For those of us who are real believers in the " ice floe" solution, it is something that has been thought through often, the hardware is in place and the mental preparation done.
Of course we can get in a paralyzing accident or have a blod clot in the brain eff us up, making us unable to use said hardware, but baring that, the ice floe awaits.
As for Fionas comment of most people not keeping in shape, I notice that every 2 months when I go to the hospital, to have a check up and see what horrors the leukemia has done to my body.
Most of the guys my age who suffer from the same disease are smoking cigarettes or so overweight, they can't walk normally.
No wonder the leukemia gets the better of them, they sure do their best to help it along.
Last check up the doctor asked how work was going.
I had just topped a 40 meter larch the day before in such high winds, that we couldn't set a line, so I went up old school, spurs and flipline.
I told him that, and he sat a little, thinking, then said: " We sure don't get many of your kind, here"
To most people, suicide is not an option, simply because the idea of doing it has never ebntered their mind.
For those of us who are real believers in the " ice floe" solution, it is something that has been thought through often, the hardware is in place and the mental preparation done.
Of course we can get in a paralyzing accident or have a blod clot in the brain eff us up, making us unable to use said hardware, but baring that, the ice floe awaits.
As for Fionas comment of most people not keeping in shape, I notice that every 2 months when I go to the hospital, to have a check up and see what horrors the leukemia has done to my body.
Most of the guys my age who suffer from the same disease are smoking cigarettes or so overweight, they can't walk normally.
No wonder the leukemia gets the better of them, they sure do their best to help it along.
Last check up the doctor asked how work was going.
I had just topped a 40 meter larch the day before in such high winds, that we couldn't set a line, so I went up old school, spurs and flipline.
I told him that, and he sat a little, thinking, then said: " We sure don't get many of your kind, here"
Burnham
Woods walker
The doctors don't get many of your kind here either, my old friend. Nor my kind, come to think on it 
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Accolades to you, from another "experienced" fellow, with a somewhat damaged body still making my way through as best I can.
. Accolades to you, from another "experienced" fellow, with a somewhat damaged body still making my way through as best I can.
pantheraba
More biners!!!
Stig ...I have no doubt you are blowing that doctor's mind.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Stig, you are an inspiration sir.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
The Ol' Stigaroo attitude. What eva, no matta, don't wine, just getter dunn!
Bounce
TreeHouser
Yep, tis I. I bet you guys thought you were rid of me.
squisher
THE CALM ONE!!!!
Good to read you Sean. I've wondered how you've been over the years.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
I guess the stupid forum software deleted your account due to inactivity. I think I've stopped that since then...
So, what are you up to nowadays?
So, what are you up to nowadays?
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Levi
Guest
Stig, also not a bad idea to have a mutual agreement with some close to you, who loves you enough to put a pillow over your face, if need be.
Bounce
TreeHouser
Hiya Butch! I am still slinging a saw and climbing trees. I have my own business now, and am not with Wesspur anymore. Office life just wasn't for me.
gf beranek
Old Schooler
I remember when you called me back in the day and said, at least 15 years ago, "We, at Wes Spur, would like to carry your book, Mr. Beranek". Got any left?
