The Tree House loves TreeStuff!

To grease or not to grease??????

  • Thread starter fallguy
  • Start date
  • Replies 27
  • Views 3K
F

fallguy

Guest
I have been told that you do not need to grease the tip sprocket on the bar. They say it gets enough lubricate from the chain oil. What do you pro's do? I have always regreased it with every tank of gas.:?
 

SkwerI

Treehouser
Joined
Sep 6, 2006
Messages
18,419
Location
central Florida
Never in 20 years. I do, however, use the air nozzle on my compressor to blow the crud out of the bar and tip whenever the saw gets serviced/ cleaned. I'll hit the tip with the air until it free spins. You can see the chunks of crud fly out and the old black oil dribble out the oiler holes. That clears it out so the clean oil can get into the bearings the next time I run the saw.
 

CurSedVoyce

California Hillbilly
Joined
Jun 30, 2008
Messages
37,103
Location
Near Yosemite in CA USA
I grease mine. I get the injector (disposable) pretty cheap here in town and it lasts 6-9 months. I have found it does lengthen my sprocket life significantly. I brush a lot of hard wood, manzanita, buck and deer brush. A lot of dead hard wood also. It has helped. Cheap maintenance compared to bar replacement. I think I payed about 5 bucks for my last injector. If I even get 25% more life out of my bars (9) it is much cheaper. And i know I get at least 25 percent more life in my bars for what I cut. Brushing is VERY hard on the bars. In trees, I don't know that I get the same percentage. But I would wager if I tracked it long enough.....
 
M

Mr. Sir

Guest
The bars I've been buying for the last few years have no grease inlet.
 

Ax-Man

Don't make me chop you
Joined
Feb 4, 2006
Messages
705
Location
N.E. Illinois
I didn't know you could buy a bar these days that needed greasing . The bearings are sealed and don't need any grease.
 
F

Frans

Guest
somone told me that once you start greasing you need to continue. I don't bother, ever
 
F

fallguy

Guest
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #10
That sounds like info I got that if you start then you need to continue.
 

sawinredneck

Treehouser
Joined
Mar 24, 2006
Messages
8,527
Location
Kansas
The grease tends to capture and hold grit and grime in the bearing. If you don't continue to grease and push out that grime (once you start greasing) it will build up and sieze the bearings.
I only run premium bars, Stihl ES and GB, which have no grease hole.
The first thing I do when I get a Husky with an Oregon bar on it, is pull off the bar, throw it away, and replace it with a GB bar.
IMO the Stihl ES is the best bar on the market, the GB titanium is a close second.
 

Che

Treehouser
Joined
Aug 27, 2006
Messages
1,574
Location
Central Kentucky
Anyone remember Walt? I remember him saying that if you did, do it every time religiously....otherwise don't do it at all. I quit. It is one of those things that sure FEELS like it should be doing some good though.
 

stehansen

Climbing Up
Joined
Aug 25, 2005
Messages
9,187
Location
Ceres, CA
I have an Oregon bar for my 660 that has a grease hole. But I don't think any of the Stihl bars even have a hole.
 
D

Drella

Guest
Only on the bars with the oil ports built in.

And, when cleaning the bar tip sproket with an air compressor, DO NOT spin it with the air. You will burn up the bearings in no time with the sort of rpm a compressor can give...
 

SkwerI

Treehouser
Joined
Sep 6, 2006
Messages
18,419
Location
central Florida
No, I do not believe you. Been doing it for years and have never burned up a tip. Seems like the guys who fret over their bar tips and constantly grease them are the only ones who burn them up.
 

GASoline71

'cause chicks dig scars
Joined
Nov 13, 2005
Messages
3,580
Location
The Great Pacific Northwest
Stihl bars nowadays don't even have grease holes. I have never greased a bar tip in all the years I've been cuttin'.

The Oregon Powermatch ans Windsor Speed-tip bars I have used in the past have grease holes. Still never used them though.

Compressed air will not burn up the bearings... :what:

Gary
 

Magnus

TreeHouser
Joined
May 6, 2005
Messages
4,869
Location
South East Sweden
Nope, never have and never will...

If grease is put frim inside out, oil will not get from outside in.

If it is full of crap it doesn't matter either way...

If it is to be greased, you clean out old grease and put in new. Just insert new grease without cleaning never works..

If oiler is OK and oil is good there should be enugh oil for bar and chain.
 
F

fallguy

Guest
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #19
Sounds like I do not need to buy a new grease gun. One less thing to carry when I head to the woods. Thanks for the input.
 

Altissimus

TreeHouser
Joined
Jul 1, 2008
Messages
6,872
Location
southern Vermont
When I have the bar off the powerhead, I ream out the groove with a broken hacksaw blade, file the burr off (long way...all four), and then grease the top sprocket. It is not all that often.
 
D

Drella

Guest
No, I do not believe you.
If you're one of those knuckleheads that like the sound of a bar sproket spinning at 12,000rpms,, then yes, you will "sooner or later," burn up the bearings...

Seen it done, I know what I'm talking about.
 

JIML

Treehouser
Joined
Oct 17, 2005
Messages
478
Location
Indiana
I tried to fry one on a cheap ass poulan bar one time with the air compressor. I got tired of listening to it so I stopped. I probably had that sucker going mach 10 for 5 minutes straight.
 
The Tree House Loves TreeStuff!
Top