Sizdutch Wyby variation

[davidwyby]

Itchin to get to try this. Meantime, if someone else can, try it and let me know. Thoughts?

 

[SeanKroll]

Looks to have elements of a swing dutchman/ soft dutchman.

 

[davidwyby]

Looks to have elements of a swing dutchman/ soft dutchman.

That was the idear.

‘ nother subject :

Doesn’t sparkle well for the camera but check out the salt from the dry salt cedar.

 

[Burnham]

That will work just as intended...some of the time, and except when it doesn't .

The degree to which the lay will be affected will always be unique to each individual tree you try it on. So in my mind, you have to be willing to get anything from nearly no response all the way up to unexpectedly acute response. If where you are falling the tree doesn't allow for anywhere in that range, you have some risk attached...just like with all gimmick cuts.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't try it where it won't matter what happens too much...but remember that it never is exactly duplicable.

 

[stig]

That horse has been flogged plenty, here.
Care to find the old threads, Burnham.
Seeing as how you surely have a talent for that.

 

[Burnham]

I'll do that if my present post doesn't seem to take .

 

[Burnham]

Just for humor, I queried "dutchman" in the search function...got some 200 posts. Search by "dutchman" and specify "Burnham" in the "by" block and you get about 20 hits. A quick scan would lead one to believe than many of these are essentially warnings about unreliability, lack of repeatability, etc.

 

[gf beranek]

True that!

 

[Burnham]

More than a few of them are also from your keyboard, @gf beranek.

When Gerry says be careful about something, the smart money is on those who listen and remember .

 

[chris_girard]

Oh yes, the good old 'swing dutchman.'

One of the big supporters of this technique was the late, great D. Dent and even he realized that it was not a technique that could be relied upon all the time.

I personally love using it, but only out in the woods and only just to play around with it.

 

[davidwyby]

Oh yes, the good old 'swing dutchman.'

One of the big supporters of this technique was the late, great D. Dent and even he realized that it was not a technique that could be relied upon all the time.

I personally love using it, but only out in the woods and only just to play around with it.

Ed Zachary. I’m a hobbyist (for now) having fun.

 

[davidwyby]

Watching some Brennen Miller (top heavy timber) and talking to @Normzilla about it got me referring to Dent’s book, and doing some googling, which brought me here…

I have only had occasion to use a sizwheel/Dutchman a couple times. The one I remember was a small pine leaning uphill. I gave it a siz Dutch and wedge to get it going…swung well over 90°! Away from the fence as desired but hung up in an oak. 😆

Since I first thought of this I also got to experiment with hinging characteristics on a bunch of good sized eucalyptus spars last winter. Trad Humboldt with tall back walls do indeed increase hinge time, even on brittle Euc. This winter I will see if I can swing some…which brings me back to the sizdutch. I suspect that to get max swing, one might cut the Dutchman from the lean side all the way to perhaps 50% of the tree. Then leave the hinge quite thick on the tension side, so the hinge is more of a post than a hinge. Make it tall, a big wide open sizwheel. Theoretically, the tree will fall into the lean and and the but will roll down around the ramp on the stump, swinging all the way around to the pull side. We shall see I guess.

 

[Normzilla]

Watching some Brennen Miller (top heavy timber) and talking to @Normzilla about it got me referring to Dent’s book, and doing some googling, which brought me here…

I have only had occasion to use a sizwheel/Dutchman a couple times. The one I remember was a small pine leaning uphill. I gave it a siz Dutch and wedge to get it going…swung well over 90°! Away from the fence as desired but hung up in an oak. 😆

Since I first thought of this I also got to experiment with hinging characteristics on a bunch of good sized eucalyptus spars last winter. Trad Humboldt with tall back walls do indeed increase hinge time, even on brittle Euc. This winter I will see if I can swing some…which brings me back to the sizdutch. I suspect that to get max swing, one might cut the Dutchman from the lean side all the way to perhaps 50% of the tree. Then leave the hinge quite thick on the tension side, so the hinge is more of a post than a hinge. Make it tall, a big wide open sizwheel. Theoretically, the tree will fall into the lean and and the but will roll down around the ramp on the stump, swinging all the way around to the pull side. We shall see I guess.

Great book!!