Yes, and that's likely why Patrick was using it like that, probably had a rope that was incompatible with the masdaam. You're right about having more options this way, just pointing out that it could be simpler with just as much strength.
Thanks Johnny!
I prefer shackles when rigging. 2 ton wll are inexpensive, to biners.
Question(s) please.... Peter --
are those the sort of "U" shaped "clevis" shackles that have the screw in bar across the ends?
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if so......... does it matter how they are loaded?
... i.e. if you connect two ropes or anchor, etc. to one of them it seems they will naturally orient themselves so one rope, etc. is in a corner where the bar meets one of the "U" legs and the other rope, etc. is along the bottom, trough of the "U" (see what I mean?)
.... so do you worry about how the shackle orients itself with the 2 loaded sides? thanks!
The reason why everyone knows what friction hitches they are using is because it's the right one. The wheel already exists, no need to reinvent it. Use a prussik and be done with it. Good job on the better cuts, make sure your pull point is as high as possible so you maximise leverage.
Thanks Kyle!
If you don't have a Big Shot, Robert... you need one.
Thanks MB. Yeah, I did buy one a while back but haven't used it. Even though these are relatively short trees there are lots of branches intertangled and in the way of the throw bag.... I did think about bringing it to this job.
Much improvement, Robert...as all have noted. Place your pull rope higher in the tree; Butch says get a Big Shot, but so far I've seen nothing you are taking on that wouldn't be easily served with a standard throwline setup.
Thanks Mr. Burnham! .... you aren't going soft on me, sir, are you
.... along with the others here, your's are the most piercing and critical eyes I think about at the base of the tree. --- yes sir, just throwline and throwbag --- but because of lots of intertangled limbs and twigs in way of good throw I may try the Big Shot.
Does anyone still make a weight with the tail of a rope and throw that through a crotch? Very easy and fast to get a rope up around 30'.
Robert, what's that knot you have choked around the trunk? I can't think of any knot better than a running bowline for that purpose.
Yes, as Butch said below -- the Monkey Fist (learned from Peter Jenkins of Tree Climbers International) .... but most of these relatively small trees ... too many branches and twigs in the way and tight crotches.
Well, I think it is some sort of overkill bastardization of a Cow and/or Timber hitch.
sort of practicing two things at once... make center of pulling rope secure in all directions.... but obviously way overkill for this application.
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Need to practice running bowline so I can make one at will....
*Raises hand*
Yes, we still largely make a weighted bundle with rope tail and send it up @30+'. If we need more initial access, we have a throw bag, Big Shot, and APTA (typically used in that succession of both percent of use and achieved access height).
Is that a daisy chain hitch / timber hitch combo for the trunk tie?
Stumpshot, it is some kind of overkill version of a Timber and/or Cow hitch I was thinking.... but I'll leave the final definition to those more experienced.
A monkey's fist? Sure! Tie it open or closed, whatever the situation called for!
Yeah, open if you are feeling lucky, right?
Better!
Rope directly into rope puller as designed. Practice is good, though.
Running Bowline for base-tie. What did you use?
Hinges are better thick than thin. Probably can get a bit thinner and/ or consider "gutting the hinge" to reduce the amount fingers to bend.
Thanks Sean!
Yeah
I need to learn to tie Running Bowline at will...... I used some sort of Cow/Timber hitch conglomeration I thought..... was sort of trying to copy/practice/emulate what Kenny/TreeSpyder was talking about by doing a full (round?) turn around the running(?) end for stability.
.... I will plan to try gutting hinge on an "easy" tree today. thanks.
Question please.... Sean ----- not to argue ..... but by using Patrick's "modular" method with the Maasdam, it will allow me to pull any size bull rope... and not be limited to a "mere" 3-strand 1/2" rope ..... is there something ill advised or dangerous I'm missing? Thanks!
Ya good cuts.. plenty good enough to get the trees to the lay..... that's what counts... might have been overkill ripping the sides of the hinge down. Much improved.. one day you'll look back and this will all seem funny!
Thanks a lot Murphy!
Well, actually I think what may look like ripping the sides of the hinge down was my messy attempt at shaving off the bark so I could more clearly see the hinge corners.... probably not critical/necessary on these small trees but I want to zero in and perfect as much as possible my technique.
Also by shaving off the bark I can more clearly make where I want my hinges to go on "clear" wood instead of bark.........
..... which I think I will try using a lumber crayon today.
