sawinredneck
Treehouser
A good maul changes all of that! Technology has really made huge improvements.
sotc
Dormant hero!!
sawinredneck
Treehouser
I'm not going to say it's a bad machine Willie, because it's just not! But dammed if I can get over the price they charge for them!
sotc
Dormant hero!!
I got around it, better than over...
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
Well whatever you buy just make sure the thing has road axles with bearings in the spindles .Some of those el cheapos use wheelbarrow tires with bushed axles .Not good for much travel .
I may be mistaken but I think maybe MTD also makes the TSC brand Huskeys .
Now then Honda makes a good engine no doubt .They should be good for what they cost . Nothing wrong with a Briggs though .They've been getting it done for the last 60 years or so .
I may be mistaken but I think maybe MTD also makes the TSC brand Huskeys .
Now then Honda makes a good engine no doubt .They should be good for what they cost . Nothing wrong with a Briggs though .They've been getting it done for the last 60 years or so .
SkwerI
Treehouser
Willie, I remember when you found that TW on Craigslist. What a deal! Looks like it's working just fine. 
sotc
Dormant hero!!
Yessir! My bro in law is gogging it at the moment, I need to go get it back. He will likely drop it off when he starts trying to sell the pine he has been splitting!
sawinredneck
Treehouser
No Al, those are made by Speeco, trust me, don't buy one!
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
What then Speeco makes the TSC stuff ? I dunno seems like everyone around that has one doesn't seem to have much trouble with them .
Tom though does shear the 5/8" bolt on his wedge more often than he should I would think . I think his problem is due to the fact the grade 8 bolt he is using has the shear plane in the threads of the bolt .I got him a few long ones that will have to be cutoff with a die grinder that will allow the plane to be above or out of the threads that should cure the problem .If not I'll make him a pin out of Thompson shafting .He'll not break that stuff .
Tom though does shear the 5/8" bolt on his wedge more often than he should I would think . I think his problem is due to the fact the grade 8 bolt he is using has the shear plane in the threads of the bolt .I got him a few long ones that will have to be cutoff with a die grinder that will allow the plane to be above or out of the threads that should cure the problem .If not I'll make him a pin out of Thompson shafting .He'll not break that stuff .
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What do you guy's think of the Iron&Oak brand?
My local rental place uses them; and usually they pick beefy stuff, because rental equip. takes a real beating...
Also, I noticed that Bailey's is selling them. The ones I saw in their catalog, recently, were about $2,500 for a 20-ton
splitter. Looked like it went both Vert. and Horizontal. But that's right about what TW wants for theirs. How do they
compare?
My local rental place uses them; and usually they pick beefy stuff, because rental equip. takes a real beating...
Also, I noticed that Bailey's is selling them. The ones I saw in their catalog, recently, were about $2,500 for a 20-ton
splitter. Looked like it went both Vert. and Horizontal. But that's right about what TW wants for theirs. How do they
compare?
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TreeDimensional
Guest
Al, doesn't a shear bolt that doesn't shear, kinda defeat the purpose of the protection it's supposed to offer. This Tom dude sounds like he is kinda hard on stuff!
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
I don't think it's supposed to shear .It's the bolt that holds the cylinder rod to the splitting wedge .
In his praticular model rather than have a yoke fastener on the cylinder shaft it uses a drilled rod end and the yoke is part of the wedge assembley .His is a 28 ton TSC model which they don't even make any more .
Now that brings up another subject .They are rather liberal with tonnage ratings on most models ,TimberWolf being one exception .They like to somewhat "embellish " how much moxie the things have by using the max the pump puts out while at the same time neglecting to include the lower setting of the relief valve .Typical marketing ploy .
My homebuilt with a 5 inch cylinder could be capable of around 30 ton but in reality with my relief valve settings it's more like 24-25 ton .It's enough though .
In his praticular model rather than have a yoke fastener on the cylinder shaft it uses a drilled rod end and the yoke is part of the wedge assembley .His is a 28 ton TSC model which they don't even make any more .
Now that brings up another subject .They are rather liberal with tonnage ratings on most models ,TimberWolf being one exception .They like to somewhat "embellish " how much moxie the things have by using the max the pump puts out while at the same time neglecting to include the lower setting of the relief valve .Typical marketing ploy .
My homebuilt with a 5 inch cylinder could be capable of around 30 ton but in reality with my relief valve settings it's more like 24-25 ton .It's enough though .
sawinredneck
Treehouser
If you like the Iron and Oak's then look at these: http://www.ramsplitter.com/
Then do a little "window shopping" here: http://www.logsplittersdirect.com/brand/ramsplitter.php
I think you'll understand where I am heading.
Then do a little "window shopping" here: http://www.logsplittersdirect.com/brand/ramsplitter.php
I think you'll understand where I am heading.
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
Now it's not my call but in my opinion a strictly horizontal splitter is not the ticket unless it has a log lift like a TW .
You get to horsing 36" rounds of oak onto one of those things you'll blow buggy washers if your back doesn't go first . Not good .
You get to horsing 36" rounds of oak onto one of those things you'll blow buggy washers if your back doesn't go first . Not good .
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
This is kind of what I meant by the yoke situation .Toms splitter shown in the first pic has the bolt through the cylinder rod .Mine the rusty homebuilt uses a big yoke attached to the cylinder by a 1.5" thread rod and uses a 1" through pin to attach it to the wedge .
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sawinredneck
Treehouser
Rounds like that, I quarter with the saw faster than the splitter can, and I don't have to wrestle with them.
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
Those are around 36" oak not so bad you can roll them around without much problem .Those occasional 4 footers are a different story though .
sotc
Dormant hero!!
Timber wolf barely hits second stage with the fourway blade and straight grained oak like that. Fast!
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I have one of those Logrite Hookaroon's. They're great for moving large and heavy rounds and unloading the truck. Also have one of their cant hooks for rolling the big ones over to make my final cuts...
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Prices aren't bad. That Honda GTX seems to be 'the' engine, huh. What makes it better than a comparable briggs do you think?
SkwerI
Treehouser
Briggs motors fell out of favor when they were cranking out junk motors in the 80s and 90s, while the Japs were introducing much better power units and taking away market share. In recent years it seems as if Briggs has greatly improved their model lineup as well as their quality control. They still make cheap motors but they seem a bit more durable now.
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Interesting. I wasn't aware of any decline period with Briggs. Where they making them offshore somewhere? I have one or two that were
purchased in the 90's and a few in the early 2000's. They all seem to be working well. Not one problem with any of them.
purchased in the 90's and a few in the early 2000's. They all seem to be working well. Not one problem with any of them.
lumberjack
Young man on the go
Given the choice, I'd take Honda to Kohler, and Kohler to Briggs.
The only trouble we've had out of our Briggs (35hp) is a bit of oil consumption. Nothing terrible, but it only has 300 some odd hours on it.
The only trouble we've had out of our Briggs (35hp) is a bit of oil consumption. Nothing terrible, but it only has 300 some odd hours on it.
sawinredneck
Treehouser
Briggs got the idea they didn't need to line the cylinder for the longest time, bean counters, so they would die under 500 hours. Then the plastic carb idea hit, Tecumseh followed suit. Fine, but you spent $75 rebuilding a carb on a $100 mower. Kinda kils the service aspect of things, if you can rebuild it, sometimes the porosity in the castings are so bad you can't (the new fuel doesn't help) then it's $135 for a new carb, plus labor. It's hard to sell that to someone.
A Honda, Kohler or even better, a Kawasaki, $35 I can clean the carb, make it run great, and have a happy customer!
Briggs has gotten better, but the plastic carbs kill it for me, and most of it comes from China.
I'm leaning more and more towards the Ramsplitter 16ton electric. But it's going to have to quit raining so I can cut something first.
A Honda, Kohler or even better, a Kawasaki, $35 I can clean the carb, make it run great, and have a happy customer!
Briggs has gotten better, but the plastic carbs kill it for me, and most of it comes from China.
I'm leaning more and more towards the Ramsplitter 16ton electric. But it's going to have to quit raining so I can cut something first.
