Maybe a difference between hardwood and soft but in BC staying near the stump is a fools errand. That's where shit comes raining down the most. Best have a couple escape paths and use them. Primary and secondary. Not saying duck your head and run blindly but worksafeBC has the stats and staying with the stump ups your probability for injury or death greatly. I'm assuming it's different in hardwoods.JIMMINEY FRIGGIN CHRISTMAS!!! Im sorry Magnus, but theres no way in Hades that Im cutting a heavy leaner, letting it go the way its leaning, with a cable tied in it above my head!!! You know whats going to happen??? I will tell you whats going to happen, that butt cut is going to kick back off the stump and on YOU! NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE!!!!!!! I know conditions and understory are different around the world and in the woods, but Ive seen way too many folks post about cutting and running as the tree starts to fall. 9 times out of 10 Im not running more than a few feet. If youre anywhere within the reach of that trunk or the canopy of it, the safest place to be is close to the stump AS LONG AS YOU ARE LOOKING UP.
Let me add that I am NOT trying to start an argument with ANYBODY here! Im the "new guy" on the block so to speak and as such I have a ton of respect for the long time members. All I am trying to convey is the methods of cutting that work best and are safest for ME!
All of this I agree with. I never said I stood at every stump and played ring around the roses with falling trees. In closing, we all do it the best way we know how and so far its worked for us, we are still here! I think it would be a great idea for us to go to each others job sites and watch the others work if the opportunity ever arises. Im certain we can all learn something from each other.I agree all sorts of bad things can happen at the stump not just branches showering down. Many of the things you mentioned and countless more variables. I remember doing a snag felling contract as a young and fairly inexperienced guy. In over my head but getting paid. Lol. I put a face in this one old rotten pig and the instant I started my backcut that sucker started coming down on itself like it was imploding and spitting out the bottom. There was no looking up, around or anywhere else except for running for my life, saw dropped, head down and tail tucked. I got lucky that day and I remember the saw did too amazingly. Gave me some perspective on how far a tree can be gone and still standing.
I think most would,agree there is no cookie cutter procedure to cover all trees. Part of the allure of the work is every tree and situation is different and requires full consideration and assessment. But in general and by training rules and regs here you don't stay at the stump longer than necessary.