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Nope. Going up, we freeclimbed. That is how I broke my back in -83. Got smarter after that. 2 lanyards for climbing up and a rope with a figure 8 for swinging from tree to tree. Once I got good at the transferring thing, I could climb up in the morning and only come down for lunch and quitting...

When I worked in conifers, picking cones or cutting branches for x-mas decorations, which was big busines here, I used a large figure 8. Not ideal, but the only thing that would stand up to to pitch. Back in the 7-80es I put in 2 months a year doing that.

I've heard some bad stories from Ambro Lauri after the Wall fell and suddenly there was big money in harvesting Normanniana seeds.