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Judo is Jigoro Kano's idea of a sport and healthy fun version of the old Jujutsu/JiJutsu/Jiujutsu ( Lots of different ways to spell that one). He basically took all the nasty tecniques out of it and turned it into a sport. Same thing happened to Aikido when Yueshiba got his hands on it. Used to...

I wasn't so much talking about discipline, but about instilling the true spirit of martial arts. I have taught hundreds of kids the basics of karate, both here and in California. Go beat someone up sure wasn't part of my teaching curricula. But then I'm probably just old fashioned.

All I can say is that you must have had a hell of a misguided Judo teacher. But then, Kano did turn Judo into a sport.

Now, where is the fun in that?

Or you could combine the two and play rugby.