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It's a special gift I have. I once identified a bird for Terri while being halfway across the world from her:lol:

Like Bermy said, the heartwood is brittle, breaks easily, the sapwood is much more fibrous and flexible. ( Well, she didn't say it like that, but I bet that is what she meant) So the Coos Bay works by a combination of allowing a fast backcut and laeving only the brittle heartwood to be cut.

I knew you were a short bar guy at heart, Jerry. Fairly low stump too, for the circumstance;) Logging with broken ribs is a bitch. Been there, done that....don't ever want to do it again.

I found myself thinking about this thread today at work. I was thinning a very dense stand of 60 year old beech trees and my main objective was keeping them from getting hung up in each other. I did hang one, but also managed to unhang it with no big fuzz. I was making very low angle facecuts...

Jerry, you have had the luck to be raised as a faller in some of the most incredible trees ever felled. I for one really envy you that. My reply to your post was halfway tounge in cheek, since I read your post to be made the same way. Andy, it'll have to wait a few days, since I'll be...

My comeback would be that as far as I can see, your felling tecniques haven't evolved since the whip-saw when the blade needed to reach through the whole tree. It seems to me that your way was developed to deal with really big trees, and now that the big trees are mostly gone those tecniques...

You don't want to be bucking and limbing an oak like that with anything above a 30" bar; Jerry. With all the bind and chrushed branches, you'd be throwing your chain both left and right. It is also way easier to use the tip of the bar for undercutting a branch with bottom bind that is close to...

I won't brave the rain to go get the saw out of the truck, but I think my 18" bar is at least 2" longer than the 441 it is mounted on.:D

I tried to make some pictures today. It was raining hard the whole day, so between trying to keep my new camera from getting soaked and a spraycan that was almost empty, I don't know if the results are worth much. Will have to redo the whole thing on a sunny day, and make some bucking pictures...

Sometimes a bar is just a bar, Punk!!:D

No way I could run a saw w/o handle heat in your winters, Burnham. My poor fingers would die and fall off. Andy, I've been working with the skidder driver today, felling trees across the forest roads and clearing them away. Not a chance to take pictures. Hope I've better luck tomorrow.

I'll take some pics tomorrow for you Andy. Stihl has just put out a new 40some cubic saw in their pro line MS241. It even comes with full arctic package. If it runs as well as the 261 it will be a damned good little saw. I'm thinking of ditching my 260 and getting one of these. If I do, I'll...