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Ya that's fantastic. I don't know why I haven't really done that before. I always think to myself, "Well I'll try that out when the right situation arises to practice it". But then I go back to my safe and sound basic falling methods, which always have served me well so I keep using them...

I like this idea for toying with methods or intricacies of hinge characteristics. Thanks for that.

Great comments. So myself on a dead tree I've always favored (like the OP Shaun) a open face to allow whatever hing you get to work as long as possible. I more often than not don't cut alot of stumpshot into my backcut unless I feel there's a reason for it, so quite a even backcut. Some here...

Elm in general is a fantastically strong wood so I'd expect nothing less even though we don't deal with DED here. Around here relatively fresh bugkill pine will hinge better than live willow. Everone in their areas knows their particular common wood strengths. But around here anyways when a...

So what would you do differently if you had to pull one or the other over in a dead state? To me, species is a small part in a much bigger production when dealing with dead trees.

Around here some species decay faster than others, but mostly once dead you're gonna treat them the same. Vertical bore before even starting to cut it up to know what you're dealing with. Build a plan from there.

I'll throw in a wrench. On a dead stick like is being discussed, what would be the benefit or drawback to boring the hinge?