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I found some pix on my phone still. Pick away

I actually started just trying to flop slight side leaners, then started setting them to guy with a slightly forward pull thinking I could just add a little support and may as well use that as a combo guy/tag line. It just took me awhile to actually believe the hinge would not function at all...

I would answer that with "when in doubt of a trees hinge or its integrity". In residential tree work we deal with far more variety than a forest setting. We also usually have an easier place to stand and set an easy line. Heck, I will often set a throw line to pull with. Many times we are up...

So you guys are either supporting a weakened/ heavy leaner or just using the rope to commit the tree to the face right?

Not really a directional function, only as a support or to commit the tree