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That video is INSANE!!! Yes, thank you for the insight Graeme!

Thank you, that makes sense to me now. I figured out quick the face was too small, and after seing you're diagram and pics, that is exactly what this tree did. I pulled the saw out, watched it rock a bit, then just split right up the stem as it fell over! Stig: thankfully this was just...

Thankfully no one got hurt, and it was just for firewood. Just trying to learn from my mistakes, and I think I am still erroring by a not large enough face cut. I've got to get bigger!!! I just thought, and I think that got me more than anyting!

No, wide face, good eight inches, just not that deep, maybe six inches. Shoulda just chased it off the stump I guess:lol:

Well, first and foremost the notch was too small, Iam certain of that. The hinge was around two and a half inches wide on a 31" tree. Really should have been a strugle to wedge, but with the lean, not so bad. It was even all the way across the stump and with the notch.

But back to my original point, the hinge is what I think caused the barberchair. The tree split right on the remaining hinge wood. If I had made a thinner hinge and bore cut it I can buy this. But the hinge remaining the same I am not getting it. Sorry if I am being stuborn, just trying to...

So it MIGHT not have had time to pull, just broken off?

There was no need to swing it anywhere other than the lean. The lay was perfect, a nice clearing and easy to get to. Being that it was Oak I really wasn't that worried about barberchair, I have never had a white Oak split on me before. Now not being a smart azz Justin, but this baffles me a bit...

I had a REALLY BAD ONE today!! Sorry, no pics. 30" DBH standing dead white Oak, fair lean to it, weighted heavy to the lean. I figured it for an easy drop, made a smallish face cut, made the backcut about an inch and a half higher. Just as I was pulling the saw out to wedge it the wind comes up...