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exactly, I'm a bit surprised ya'll are still hashing this relative non -issue over..... of interest is this....the hitch prolly has a name....if you take say, 5 round turns around a limb/log, the termination link will feel almost no force.... And, let me repeat... there is no way a 500...

Thanks for that, Pete. Mark and Tree Imagineeers deserve respect. Nothing in that test comes as a surprise. Of course, any good rigger knows not to use carabiners that way. If they are used as I and others have described, there is little chance of failure.....I won't say no chance..... I...

Ha..saw that one some time ago.....

Wet, I'm sure, dark....similar to Samson's Samthane...maybe not as stiff or long lasting. Works fine, helps keep the rope from picking

Sure, I'm now having eye splices put in my rigging lines.....for heavy loads, I'd use a shackle, for sure. I agree to not use a biner on heavy loads, especially butt hitching which results in shock loading. But I stand by my use of them for up to 1000 pound loads if there's no shock loading...

I always slack my lifeline, in that situation. It appears Mickey did the same.

hey, in a wood stove, pine burns fine, hot, and maybe not too bad for creosote buildup. Of course it's btu value is low..... Of course, I avoid it....what with having plenty of great woods to choose from, all free.

sure, Pete, maybe 15-25% of the load is lateral....that is, the portion of the load that is actually transferred to the biner, which is very minimal when rigged the way I teach my crew. I didn't see what Mickey was doing or would have insructed him to do it the better way. The way Mickey rigged...

Bounce, that's a 50k rated biner..and there's a half hitch taking some of the load, which was 150 pounds (actual weight)at most, and let run. Even so, I usually run the clip around the line and clip back to itself(which Mickey didn't do), this reduces the load on the biner by half again.....and...

I agree...but the tie point was about level with the block. a marl would have been better than a half hitch....and lose the biner...but the wood was dead pine, so pretty light. The second cut was to aid in getting the lead off the stump. It hung a bit. He didn't cut it 100% through, I think.

We had some fun rigging out this easy 4 trunked dead pine last week. Mickey has only worked with us a bit...he's a top notch arborist...has worked a lot with my pal Eli, and Dan Kraus.....he excells at pruning, but does well with removals---and he slutted and posed a bunch for the camera, I'd...