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That is how I use it, too. Set a line where you want it, set the SW and work off of that. Saves a lot of hassle in trees with a lot of twigs and smallish branches that get in the way.

In this particular tree we'd have had to SRt up through a lot of little branches and brush, not my favourite way to go. As for tying an alpine butterfly to work out of, you are right. But does an alpine butterfly knot have nice shiny green rings?

We found a neat application for the system today. Had to remove a large almost horizontal oak branch over a building. The only available tie-in point was above a bunch of small branches and brush making it impossible to remote set a friction saver. Naked crotching would have made too much...

I was thinking the same, Willie. Why fart around with setting it in the top of the tree, when you can do it on the ground. That gives you a bail-out option, too. And sure, one can make up something similar. But that thing is just so pretty, green rings and all, I had to own it:)

Thanks for the link. I went right ahead and ordered one. Gotta keep ahead of Richard

I have played around with something similar, but this is very smart. I'll have to get me one of those. Where did yours come from.............Nick, maybe?