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Capt. James Hart was on ABC News tonite, I only caught the end of it. Someplace in the Middle East.

Jonny is this your brother???
 
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N.C.O.= Non Commissioned Officer! HC
 
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An NCO is from the rank of corporal (E4) to Sergeant Major of the Army (E9)
 
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And most of the officers I met didn't have any common sense. :D
 

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It's a strange game that's played out, the officers and the enlisted men.

My dad was an NCO, bummer. I twern't no rich kid.
 
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I had a few good Lt's they seem to have a different attitude toward you once you reach E6. But buck sergeant and below your just dirt. At least that was the way it was where I was at.
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I wasn't gonna get into the whole Warrant Officer thing.

Fairly uncommon? Gimme an example of an NCO with a college degree. That would be an extremely unwise move.
 
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I hear ya Butch I don't know about the ones you met, the ones I did were out there, crazy bastages. Most were chopper pilots that I knew, don't get me wrong. These guys were great just a different breed.
 

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I wasn't gonna get into the whole Warrant Officer thing.

Fairly uncommon? Gimme an example of an NCO with a college degree. That would be an extremely unwise move.
Having a college degree can get you started out as an E4, and others have a college degree and worked their way up, or finish their degree while in the service.

A degree (minimum of 90 hours) is a requirement to become an officer, however, having a degree does not an officer make. Some people with degrees do not qualify for OTS, nor do they complete it.

If you are a contracted ROTC cadet, and you piss the CO off (he deems you unfit as an officer), or otherwise fail to fullfil your contract, you are still government property. We had one MS4 cadet (final year) nearly become enlisted.
 

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I still don't believe anyone with a college degree would accept an E-4. That's the stoopidest thing I've ever heard.

I need an example of someone dumb enough to do that.
 
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No, not my brother and to the best of my knowledge, of no relation.
My bro Pete is an E-4 specialist, and my bro Tim is a sergeant E-5. I was an E-4 when I got out, and if I wanted responsibility and wanted to be a rank whore, I probably could have gotten E-6.
Specifically, a bachelor's degree or better to be a commissioned officer, and it has to be in a field that the military can make some use of.
 
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I was an E-5 promotable when I got out of the Guard. I had my bachelor's already and was drinking my way out of grad school. I enlisted strictly for the benefits and there was way too much bullshit and hoops associated with going the ROTC/ officer route. While I was at boot camp I got stuck tutoring one of my drill sgts. in history. He had to earn a certain number of college credits to move up the NCO ranks.

Things may have changed since you were in Butch.;)
 
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I'm saying that it rarely ever happens.
I think in today's military with education requirements for advancement, it is much more common, but I've been out for 10 years so I'm not as in touch as I could be.
 
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