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Jonseredbred
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Capt. James Hart was on ABC News tonite, I only caught the end of it. Someplace in the Middle East.
Jonny is this your brother???
Jonny is this your brother???
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
I think Jonny's bro is an NCO.
lumberjack
Young man on the go
Fairly certain MB is correct.
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Jonseredbred
Guest
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NCO ?
H
Hobby Climber
Guest
N.C.O.= Non Commissioned Officer! HC
M
Mr. Sir
Guest
A non-commissioned officer
N
Newfie
Guest
AKA, some sort of seargent.
M
Mr. Sir
Guest
Exactly. Not a captain.
C
Chisel Tooth
Guest
An NCO is from the rank of corporal (E4) to Sergeant Major of the Army (E9)
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
An NCO does NOT have a college degree.
C
Chisel Tooth
Guest
And most of the officers I met didn't have any common sense. 
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
It's a strange game that's played out, the officers and the enlisted men.
My dad was an NCO, bummer. I twern't no rich kid.
My dad was an NCO, bummer. I twern't no rich kid.
C
Chisel Tooth
Guest
I had a few good Lt's they seem to have a different attitude toward you once you reach E6. But buck sergeant and below your just dirt. At least that was the way it was where I was at.
See Ya
Mike
See Ya
Mike
lumberjack
Young man on the go
Being a NCO and a college grad are not mutually exclusive, although fairly uncommon.
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Brian
Guest
Yup!
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
I wasn't gonna get into the whole Warrant Officer thing.
Fairly uncommon? Gimme an example of an NCO with a college degree. That would be an extremely unwise move.
Fairly uncommon? Gimme an example of an NCO with a college degree. That would be an extremely unwise move.
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Chisel Tooth
Guest
I hear ya Butch I don't know about the ones you met, the ones I did were out there, crazy bastages. Most were chopper pilots that I knew, don't get me wrong. These guys were great just a different breed.
lumberjack
Young man on the go
Having a college degree can get you started out as an E4, and others have a college degree and worked their way up, or finish their degree while in the service.
A degree (minimum of 90 hours) is a requirement to become an officer, however, having a degree does not an officer make. Some people with degrees do not qualify for OTS, nor do they complete it.
If you are a contracted ROTC cadet, and you piss the CO off (he deems you unfit as an officer), or otherwise fail to fullfil your contract, you are still government property. We had one MS4 cadet (final year) nearly become enlisted.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
I still don't believe anyone with a college degree would accept an E-4. That's the stoopidest thing I've ever heard.
I need an example of someone dumb enough to do that.
I need an example of someone dumb enough to do that.
GASoline71
'cause chicks dig scars
LMAO...
Common saying in all the military branches...
"It takes a College Degree to screw it up, and a High School Diploma to fix it..."
Gary
Common saying in all the military branches...
"It takes a College Degree to screw it up, and a High School Diploma to fix it..."
Gary
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JonnyHart
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No, not my brother and to the best of my knowledge, of no relation.
My bro Pete is an E-4 specialist, and my bro Tim is a sergeant E-5. I was an E-4 when I got out, and if I wanted responsibility and wanted to be a rank whore, I probably could have gotten E-6.
Specifically, a bachelor's degree or better to be a commissioned officer, and it has to be in a field that the military can make some use of.
My bro Pete is an E-4 specialist, and my bro Tim is a sergeant E-5. I was an E-4 when I got out, and if I wanted responsibility and wanted to be a rank whore, I probably could have gotten E-6.
Specifically, a bachelor's degree or better to be a commissioned officer, and it has to be in a field that the military can make some use of.
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Newfie
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I was an E-5 promotable when I got out of the Guard. I had my bachelor's already and was drinking my way out of grad school. I enlisted strictly for the benefits and there was way too much bullshit and hoops associated with going the ROTC/ officer route. While I was at boot camp I got stuck tutoring one of my drill sgts. in history. He had to earn a certain number of college credits to move up the NCO ranks.
Things may have changed since you were in Butch.
Things may have changed since you were in Butch.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
I'm saying that it rarely ever happens.
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Newfie
Guest
I think in today's military with education requirements for advancement, it is much more common, but I've been out for 10 years so I'm not as in touch as I could be.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
For sure. When I went in they were enlisting anyone.
