Butter question!

Smart Balance?? That's no more butter than turtle poop is, Carl :D.

That's one of the obvious problems with this whole thread...seems to me that a whole bunch of y'all have no idea what is and what is not butter.
 
LOL. I've never had cause to taste turtle poop, but if you say it tastes the same there is bound to be an untapped yuppy/organic/naturalist customer base selling turtle poop butter. How would you rate its spreadability at both room and refrigerator temps?

Butter flavor, milk butter, buttering her up... I got a fair grasp of several uses of the word "butter"!

I rarely use any butter flavoring:lol:.
 
What do y'all meen by raw milk?

Un-pastuerized...straight from the cow, microbes and all.

What about straight from the goat? My only complaint with goat's milk is that it's naturally homogenized, and so you can't just let the cream rise to make butter with. You have to buy a "cream separator" in order to get the cream. Therefore, we don't fool with it. We do have some friends with a cow who give us milk from time to time. My wife will let the cream rise and put it in a jar and let the kids juggle it until they have butter. Pretty neat homeschool activity....
 
Did you know if you feed calfs pasteurized milk they die fairly quickly, about 3 weeks I believe.........

Yes because the cream was striped off, so the fat content is next to nothing. If you pasteurize the milk out of the bulk tank they can live fine on it. What do you think calf milk replacer is? Fake milk made from re hydrating dairy solids.
 
I was under the impression it was because all the enzymes in the milk that are needed to digest it are distroyed ??/

That is what the raw milk folks say. I don't buy into it that much.

Here is what does most calves in. http://www.farmllc.org/custom3.html

If you do drink raw milk make sure you trust the dairyman with your family's lives.

Here is why milk is pasteurized.

Infectious Microbes Found in Cow’s Milk
Mycobacterium tuberculosis: The cause of “consumption,” a horrific wasting disease that first affects the lungs, Mycobacterium bovis is associated with consumption of raw milk and was one of the most common contaminants prior to the practice of pasteurization. M. bovis causes tuberculosis in cows and can be passed to humans via unpasteurized cow's milk, causing a disease that is very similar to M. tuberculosis.

Bacillus cereus: These bacteria produce a toxin that can cause diarrhea and another that causes vomiting. Bacillus cereus spores are heat-resistant and may survive pasteurization. There have even been very rare cases linked to dried milk and dried infant formula.
Brucella: Brucella is a bacterial microbe that is found in unpasteurized dairy products. Brucella infection, or Brucellosis, has also been called “Undulant Fever” because of the regular recurrence of fever associated with the disease.

Campylobacter jejuni: Campylobacter jejuni is the most common bacteria to cause diarrheal disease in the U.S. and is found in raw milk and poultry. It has an increased chance of causing disease when consumed in milk, because the basic pH of milk neutralizes the acidity of the stomach.

Coxiella burnetii: Coxiella infects a variety of animals, including livestock and pets. The microbe can be found in cow’s milk and is resistant to heat and drying. Infection by Coxiella results in Q fever, a high fever that may last up to 2 weeks.

E. coli O157:H7: This particular strain of E. coli has been associated with a number of food-borne outbreaks and is the cause of bloody diarrhea. Frequently associated with dairy cattle, microbial contamination of raw milk and soft cheeses can result in disease.

Listeria monocytogenes: Listeria is a common bacterial pathogen that is found in soft cheeses and unpasteurized milk. It can even survive below freezing temperatures and can therefore withstand refrigeration. It is particularly dangerous to individuals who have weakened immune systems, including pregnant women, AIDS patients, and the very young and very old.

Mycobacterium avium subspecies paratuberculosis: This strain of mycobacteria can withstand pasteurization and has been associated with the development of Crohn’s disease, also known as inflammatory bowel syndrome. However, whether or not these bacteria can actually infect humans remains controversial.

Salmonella: Salmonella contamination of raw milk and milk products has been the source of several outbreaks in recent years. Symptoms include diarrhea and high fever.

Staphylococcus aureus: Staph aureus produces a toxin that causes explosive vomiting. The disease may be considered a consequence of actual food poisoning from simply consuming the toxin, rather than from an actual infection.

Yersinia enterocolitica: Associated with raw milk and ice cream, among other foods, contamination is believed to be a consequence of a breakdown in sanitization and sterilization techniques at dairy processing facilities.
 
Yep, when they recalled all those thousands of eggs last year because of the salmonella scare, I walked right out the coop, day after day, and kept on gathering eggs. Didn't scare me one bit.

Drinking fresh goat milk (after it's cooled) doesn't scare me at all.

If the salmonella or e. coli is there, it's there, and if it ain't, it ain't.

I like my eggs over easy (yolk runny), I like my bacon chewy, I like my rib eyes medium rare. Gee, I don't like nothing that's cooked to completion......
 
Unless you are buying half and half, milk sold in the states seems to be about the most devoid of cream content. Give me a glass of milk from Great Britain, Japan, or Hong Kong first, especially GB. I like buttermilk too, but skim milk, no thanks, more like drinking flavored water.
 
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Ha, and I've got my taste buds set to where skim milk tastes great! Whole milk is like a milkshake to me.
 
I could see maybe getting used to it if it was a goal, but the color of skim milk.....kind of blue to me. I like white, it equates with purity and peace, ha!
 
I agree with Butch. When you get used to skim or even 2%, whole milk is heavy on the tongue.

I like milk right off the farm. I dont drink it often but nothing compares for flavor and richness. Nothing comapres for gaining weight either.
 
we have both salted and unsalted butter in the fridge. Like Burnham's idea, some things we cook we dont want to add the salt and sometimes its fine. Wife likes to use unsalted if she bakes.
 
Baking is like a science. Every ingredient has to be pretty close to exact. No salt butter in baking is important as the salt has usually already been calculated into the formula that is the recipe.
That is how it was explained to me once by a pastry chef.
 
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here's ours. another hint, dont keep the dish in the cupboard above the oven ;-)
 

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