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Hope the olympics is never staged in Florida. :D

Burnham did say that taking the time to result in completeness in your cuts was important, more so than getting them right quickly. That's what I'd be looking for, given the situation, that a person can judge when a face is sufficiently completed, before going on to the next step when falling...

Yep, we are all too damn sensitive here, nothing but a bunch of "girliemen", to coin a phrase.

Sometimes you can't isolate different parts of people's personalities, just have to take the good with the bad, if there is something to be gained. I take it that this is what Burnham implies.

An old saying in my neck of the woods, "A hard teacher, is a good teacher".

You mean that all this time, Burnham has been pulling the wool over our eyes? Isn't he a crafty son of a gun....to the lay.

I'm thinking that an even back cut is basically doing the same thing as thinning the holding wood, to an extent. I know that it's species related, and higher or lower doesn't necessarily translate into a faster falling tree. I understand your thinking on it defeating the longevity of direction...

Burnham, would you advise that a low to even back cut, enhances the tree falling faster to drive through another trees limbs, or would it tend to defeat the purpose of the wider face? Thanks. Much enjoy your pics and descriptions.