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Bingo. And Frans, there are also studies on using the packaged stuff on mature trees by Bartlett and independent researchers.

re seminars, it is hit and miss and the misses are not fun. i went to hear this guy dunster, whose writing is really good, talk about tree risk. Extremely basic stuff, read every word from the slides, a snoozer. Went to hear him the next day to talk about using pictures as evidence and he had...

So who would be dead without it? I've used em and seen the advantages, but have no more lives with than without it. It is nice to lift big wood just by cranking a little handle, yes. Is this what you are selling? If so, your endorsement should have a disclaimer. 8) O and you're welcome...

I saw telescoping pole tools sold by marvin and wolfgarten and can't wait to try them. TC is right though; the real value is to be had in the seminars and in talking tree care with others. That is, unless you know everything already and can't bother with head gear. The GRCS is a nice tool if...