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Exactly. When the legs don't croos, it is a Valdotain. ( Which I was taught back in the days before most members here were out of diapers) When they cross, it is a Valdotain tresse, aka VT.

Nope. It is a Valdotain, not a Valdotain Tresse. Tresse means braid, there is no braid in it. That comes with the Valdotain tresse or as we know it: VT. The original Valdotain was simply a series of turns around the climbing ropen that fell into a certain figure, when put under load. I remember...

Like I said, I probably read too much into your post. Post # 155 and the following ones may explain.

May be just me. It often is. Like I frequently point out, English is not my first language. But read your first post again and tell me it doesn't come of awfully cheap. I mean, if I lust enough for a piece of equipment, I'll buy it. Be happy about supporting the , in this case, expatriate Brit...

But you still went the cheap way and bought a used one. Couldn't handle the thought of Paul making a profit from his invention, I guess. That'll pave the way for many new inventions to make our lives easier, for sure.

That was pretty much why I brought it up now. I feel it needs to be mentioned once in a while. No reason to make it too easy for Tobe to rip people off. Personally, I can't understand how the relatively little misstep from Kong got everybody and their grandmothers on the barricades, while this...

Because Tobe Sherril frigged you over, or for a different reason?

The water doesn't cut anything. It is simply a carrying agent for the abrasive.

Well, the powdered synthetic ruby has a little tiny bit to do with it as well. If you only used water, you would be in for a loooong wait.