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Reread my post, please! I did not oppone against teaching a Blake to new climbers, since I find that valuable knowledge myself, for the reason you just mentioned. What I said ; or meant to say, anyway, was that I fail to see the reason for starting them out on it, and only letting them use the...

I don't find a VT with a "minder" pulley a waste of time in any size tree, unless you are talking about overgrown bushes, wher you don't have to move around at all.

I don't get the reasoning behind so many of you starting climbers out with a Blake's hitch or tautline. Do you start new trainee fallers out with a stoneaxe? When newer and, frankly, better methods are available, why not use them.