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Thanks Rich!

Thanks Marc-Antoine... "And no, the diameter isn't smaller at all. Just the bar isn't no more at the diameter but at a cord, obviously less long than the diameter. " ... Yes, of course, got it! Thanks SeanKroll... "..Cut the bark off the back-strap. Know where the wood is...." and yes, thanks...

Thanks Burnham! I've had this page pulled up for a while but just now getting a chance to look at it.

Thanks SeanKroll. I had seen somewhere about cutting the backstrap either above or below the plane of the backcut... but I couldn't remember which it was and I didn't know *why* ... NOW I know WHY.. If you cut it above the backcut, the falling tree might grab the saw, right? And by boring...

Thanks Murphy4trees and MasterBlaster. For the reminder/confirmation that functionally the mismatched cuts will work and snap with no problems. I guess I am using this as sort of a litmus test for myself that I know where the bar and the tip of the bar is for overall precision. Ha, I probably...

Thanks, SeanKroll. I haven't felled enough in a row that I remember from one time to the next. Ha, I just know they tend to be inaccurate... the face cut is usually a little off level and I especially have trouble making the two sides of the back cut meet when I bore cut and the bar is too short...

Thanks a lot, Burnham! (I see you are my age) Great thread. Thanks.

Thanks Limbrat!

Thanks everyone for all the advice and welcomes! I don't know how to respond to each individual person because all my replies go to the bottom of the thread. But thanks for all your help! Robert.

Thanks MasterBlaster!

Yes, I believe a small mounted bulleye level could help a relative novice like me. In the mean time I will proceed with determination to get the cuts perfectly level. Thanks!

Got it, Mr. Altissimus! Thanks!

... ha, it so happens I'm partially answering my own question... I just got to page 282 of "The Fundamentals of General Tree Work" by G.F. Beranek and he mentions just this thing... they are the Tilt axis and the Roll axis. From page 282 "If the roll axis is level and the tilt axis is level...

Hello, In felling... Are there any good tricks or techniques for getting perfectly level/horizontal undercuts and backcuts ? Especially when the bar is 3/4 (or so) of the tree width? For example: tree width is 18" using 16" bar .... or tree width is 30" using 25" bar ... or for that matter...