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Yellow tenex - Knut - is what I use with my PI...works very well. The tenex is good stuff.

Dang, Carl, I totally agree so you must be right...how'd you get so smart????:lol: You just can't resist sometimes, I know. Oh, on topic....I use my PI all the time (when I climb..a few times a month)...but with a leather cambium saver, almost never natural crotch. The PI does great for me.