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And that is what I got out of Willie's post. If I had taken time to study the condition of the wood in the face cut...and thought about the implications of what I saw...that should have told me not to gut the hinge. What you say is very true, too...I was concerned that if the top broke out of...

hahaha, Squishy...and your avatar looks like, "Damage control....what's that???! :lol:

Maybe a thicker hinge and cut, pull, cut, pull until it breaks over the hinge? (if working it solo) Or if you have a groundie pulling (rope or vehicle) slowly apply pull as you saw the hinge down towards the face? (this is assuming no back lean)

Holmen...good input...thanks. Jerry...10-4 on gutting a head leaner...thanks for commenting. Joel...noted on deadwood hinge failing before notch closure and "somewhat narrow hinge". Get you SIL to read this thread...may save you some 'splaining. Some good folks offering good insights.

Good input...thanks. Now....How do deep notches help? Do you mean a deep notch would basically use the good wood in the center of the tree as the hinge? Rather than the customary 1/3 depth hinge? I guess that would also "saw some lean into the tree".

Good description, Jay. I pulled that one with a 3:1 hoist. I can get a pretty substantial pull but not a fast pull. I did what you said...cut some, pulled, cut a little more. Willie, you are right...when I gutted that hinge I compromised my best holding wood. Looking back, my hoist had...

Thanks, Stephen...I realized I kinda screwed the pooch once I got it down. Full hinges on dead or suspects from now on. 10-4 on spring poles...several small ones I experimented with. I am gonna read Jerry's section on spring poles again...lots of energy stored in even the little ones. I...

That is what I am thinking as I armchair quarterback myself ex posto facto....I am thinking no gutting on deadwood.

I felled this dead pine solo yesterday, about an 80 foot pine...it was pretty vertical, slight side lean. I put a re-directed pull line into the top 1/3 of tree...shot a line with APTA and choked the top. I used a 3:1 hoist to put a good pull on the top...hoped to break the top out of it...