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I was looking at these guys on amazon... https://www.amazon.com/Kayak-Canoe-Cleat-Black-Strong/dp/B01MUGSVIR/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1SXEXRR8KAC4R&keywords=T+cleat&qid=1700927059&sprefix=t+cleat%2Caps%2C197&sr=8-9 Not the strongest things in the world, but it's not like I'd be rigging off of them...

JetSled came yesterday at Dark O'Clock, so I didn't have a chance to check it out. I think this'll work pretty well... Thinking about loops of some kind midway down for lashing a load down. Metal would probably be best(maybe a screwlink), but cord should work too.

Any thoughts on the battery winch(PCW3000-LI)? Top speed is slower than the 5000, but an electric motor simplifies operation. There's concerns about it running out of power, but it's about $1k cheaper, and $1k will buy a lot of spare batteries.

Ok, so Portable Winch is the trademark name, and the models are PCWxxxx? I've seen them around a lot online, but I didn't realize that was the name. They could have picked something less generic :^D The Honda motors got my attention.

Well, I just ordered a JetSled in lg. That's what Sherrill sells, so it indicated that was the size to go, and it was almost half what the xl cost. Bigger's better, but if you can't move it when full, it isn't that useful. $57 on amazon. I'm still interested in other options, and still really...

https://www.amazon.com/Shappell-JSX-Jet-Sled-Extra-Large/dp/B003FBI83C/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=jet+sled&qid=1699825711&sr=8-2

I think Bingham is a fan of the JetSled too. That's two good recommendations, and a reasonable cheap starting point. Maybe it works great and I don't have to go any further, maybe it's insufficient, but it'll still get some work done, so the money wouldn't be wasted. What size do you like? The...

A winch is the other part of the equation I'm considering. Human power is my primary interest, but the option of adding mechanical power would be good. Is ~2T a reasonable target for capacity?

I looked on HarborFreight in the 'Material Handling' section, and they didn't really have anything like that. That might work pretty well. realtime edit: or maybe not per Stephen :^D

I could work with that. I imagine it's heavy, but it's close enough to fitting in a frontier, and the work loading it would be more than offset by the work it could do.

Place to place. It needs to fit in the back of a small pickup. In the immediate case, a nissan frontier, but that's the size truck I like, so anything else in the future will likely be similar. edit: for prices I'm looking for, the ArborTrolley at $1k isn't prohibitive, but at that price or...

I've done the brush sled thing, but the results aren't entirely satisfactory. Tying it better might work. What I usually do is big stuff on the bottom, smaller on top. then a running bowline around the end that I pull with. What happens is I sometimes get dig-ins when a branch submarines, and/or...

Anyone have any clever setups for moving material by hand? I'd like to find something better than a tarp, and cheaper than a mini. The two things I've looked at most seriously are the JetSled and ArborTrolley. The JetSled is attractively priced, and easy to deal with, while the ArborTrolley...