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http://www.libertysafenorcal.com/safe_Presidential.lasso That's what Gary (owns the local shop) recommended. The idea being it would last me for quite some time, perhaps a lifetime.

Alright Andrew. Also, we have a concrete foundation, as opposed to a conventional foundation. With a conventional, the floor would normally have to be re-enforced.

They have custom dollies made for moving safes. The local shop's can turn the safe anywhichaway. Most safes are under 30" wide, so they can fit through a standard doorway.

Darin, the class of safe I'm looking at weighs 14-1800lbs, before you add contents, or, what most mini's weigh and about 2x what they can lift. Justin, most likely, the safe will be concealed. I value all my guns, but the monitary value of some is getting on up there.

Haha, dunno if that's big enough. I hate being cramped up.

Speaking of safes, as my collection grows, I'm getting to the point where it feels foolish to not have them in a safe. Any recommendations on a brand? My local guy sells Liberty safes (I'm fairly certain). Looking to spend under $4kish. Would prefer a inside hight of 72" and a flush floor, I...