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i just replaced my 1.5 after three years. it went through some phases. it came a little waxy and slick which was co. while it was wearing off it was a pain in the ass and tangly, then after breaking in, it was great. broke it right in the middle trying to fight a stubborn rope through a crotch.

smaller diameter line will help if 12 oz. is not coming down well. i have been buying spectra in various diameters from kite sulply stores. i can throw 1.3 spectra with an 8 0z weight over the top of any tree in michigan. but its hard to pull a rope up. 1.5 mm with a 10 oz is very nice...

anyway you might nterpret it works.

i find few things more satisfying in life than hitting a crotch. its one of the things that keeps me coming back for more. i use a two handed basket throw. recently started using 10 oz bags with 1.5 mm kite line. used to always use 12 oz.

The consensus is don't even bother with the bigshot if you go beyond hand toss? I personally find the bigshot more user friendly than the APTA, lighter, takes up less space, doesnt require pumping or a pump. highly accurate, easier to adjust range (stretch of band vs PSI) takes all size...