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brian you need tougher hands Jamie

Yeah, i only use an extra 6 inches. i pass this to point c then 'super taper' it. i pass my wire fid up and pull teh 'super taper' through, i attach teh fid to something strong and pull the rope not teh taper does that make sense? Jamie

Nick, i've never thought of pulling the 'rope off the strand' before, i normally pull the strand and move up an inch or so, then tug and massage the rope over the strand as it bunches up. as you get to teh 4th and 5th marked pairs its easy as. i bury teh tail to mark c with a tubular fid then...