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Yeah, looked / sounded like the rakers were set a bit low. Happens. Providing a wide open lay, and a willing favor to it, gutting the hinge would not be out of the question on that tree. And with that saw that cottonweed could be on the ground in two minutes. Maybe 3 Billy Ray is a...

Nice. Thanks for posting that. I'd like to peek inside that face. Particularly the far corner. Ray is good. There's no denying. But still...

Like scratching an itch.

It was a great discussion. Despite all nay-Sayers to the contrary, thank you, Chris, for presenting it.

There are sure relative points with arguments on both methods. But it can be demonstrated, practically, where one method will have better outcome over the other. It's all situation dependent. But in any situation the knowledge to use one method over the other, with consistent outcome, is...

Chris's question was not directed at me. But I will chime in on this one. In a specific circumstance, one way or the other, may prove more practical or efficient. But in most general applications... use what will work safely, most easily. Just get'er down.