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I ran one once for a moment. I don't recall thinking it was great. Heavy, odd ergonomics, and relatively slow by today's standards if I remember right.

It takes a lot more then that to throw up red flags for our IRS.

Stig how old is your 441 you favor? I owned one of the very early ones and it was a good saw and certainly was a money maker but I didn't find the power curve to be as pronounced as you say. I once heard the very early ones were a little doggy.

Oh I love the oldies but make my day to day living with fresh technology. Truth be told, the 0 series stihls, and the 2 and some 3 series Huskys were outstanding tools. But with some of these current saws that behave like they are in the next engine class up, run smooth as glass in your hands...

Good. I've sold a half dozen saws on here at what I considered a reduced rate so friends can get some hours out of them. People have been equally generous to me in return here. However, I always get worried that something will get overlooked and someone will feel ripped off. Poor Mike McCauley...

Ill still take an 064 or flat top 066 over a lot of these new ones. Though the antivibe is becoming marvelous lately.

Your issues with hot weather.... are they limited to your saw or others you have used? All the AutoTune saws I know of between myself and other guys in the business I interact with have been flawless.

I have not used more then one 064 in my life. The fella that taught me to climb kept a lineup of older stihl saws that were all in outstanding order. I took a liking to the 064, which no one else really bothered with. It had a grunt and a roar to it that let me know I had some saw in my hands...

064 w/ 28" bar.

In my experience, a short bar on a strong saw will kick faster towards you. But a big bar, will kick slower, but with a lot more leverage. Many 20" bars have come at me, and they do so very fast, but I have always caught them with time to spare, minus one occasion. Long bars have come at me less...

I use just the amount of bar I need. No more. I rarely even take big bars up in the tree. For me to even consider more then a 24" bar up in the tree, it better be some very big wood.

Stig is also correct, IMO.

On second thought, I know someone that uses a 460 with a 32" in hard wood all the time. Its not a rocket, but Ive used his weapon a time or two and it gets by. Its not horrible. Not ideal, but not the worst thing in the world. Use a skip chain.

Run it. Its no big deal. If you used a big saw in big wood more often then I would say get a bigger saw. Get what you can afford and make due with it. We all do that to varying extents in life. Ive seen 044's with a 32" bar in hard wood. It was tough to watch, but the guy that owned the saw had...