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If you continue to think like this, you might as well stay home. That way you can go broke sitting on your couch rather than killing yourself doing manual labor. If you did porn, would you do it for free because it's fun?

:lol: agreed. Robert, you don't work on starting climbing, you buy gear, and do it. Practice low and slow, get someone to teach you, and just do it. You really need to give up on this "your own business" thing and go work a year for someone else. You can make a good living doing tree work, but...