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Burnham I own a Secur and have fabbed my own copies but I never have girth hitched it in the rear. I decided that I wanted to make it easy to remove and or switch between saddles so I just threaded it around a biner which I can clip into the saddle's loop or ring...or if a saddle has neither...

Burnham. I don't know how much differece ther is in the Secur and the Torse -I seem to recall thinking that they looked very similar. Oddly I have never noticed a need for a particularly low attachment point for SRT....though I have found a floating bridge arrangement doth suck during split-tail...

Yes. Thank you Bounce. I hope that WesSpur is as nice an outfit to work for as they are to deal with. I LOVE dealing with WesSpur.

the New Tribe is indeed a beautiful thing...but it doesn't suit everyone's climbing style. I do not recall ever hearing anyone call a New Tribe uncomfortable. I always wanted to try a Bry-dan. They seem to be somewhat less common than golden egg laying geese in areas outside of California.

Too high -IMO. Of course it might feel better if I wore the waist belt lower or something but I wear it where it feels right and works great with the added bridge (or clipping into the soft attachment points). I think the idea was to stick it up where it would hold a climber upright but be out...

Butch, Yeah the fixed D on a Master is not unusable but for most guys it isn't particularly comfy balance wise. I use it for SRT ascents and for double crotching sometimes. Buck sizing is smaller than Weaver. You could probably wear either a large or an XL comfortably.

Brendon, Top and others with small, saddle munchable 'nads. One of the things that a lot of guys don't know(maybe you guys do) is that almost any saddle will fit the same guy differently if it is adjusted differently. Most climbers start out with a buckle-on saddle of some sort that they cinch...

Wagnaw, Yes I did try the bridge in the lower attachment points.. in fact I tried it in every combination of attachment points. I didn't like it in the lower ones. Or the uppers. I settled where it felt best for me. This kind of illuistrates why people differ in their opinions about saddles and...

THIS gives you the best of both worlds. On caveat-The center D on a MasterII isn't the most comfy place to hang from ( at least for me) The rest of the attachement points are more carabiner friendly than rope snap.

Unfortunately, not only would we need multiple models but also various sizes...but if you leave out the midgets and the monsters(moi) most of you o guys could swap around mediums (and larges depending on the maker). Butch I predict that you would like a Buckingham Master...with an added bridge...