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As long as the bottom point of your triangle doesn't collapse, you're right. The heavier the lead, the more likely it will start to fold down before breaking free.

Not if you skinny it up by cutting the sides. Some species may tear still, but if there's only a couple inches between the bottoms of your side cuts then it's not going to be much of a tear. Again, as Jerry says, it goes against all logical and traditional thinking on making a proper cut.

The problem with the undercut in any of these variations is thart it allows the tree (or lead) to bend down due to the compression side of the cut collapsing on itself. This puts more strain on the tension (top) side resulting in earlier tear out and less successful clean separation. If you guys...

Jed, it's almost impossible. But the fibrous wood will pinch your saw in a heartbeat.

I just wanted to bump this thread and say that this is probably the best post I've seen on this forum in many years. :thumbup:

A good thread worthy of bumping, since the topic comes up once in a while. Maybe it will be picked up in the forum search if it gets bumped since the old threads aren't searchable.