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Off the topic boys, and I apologize, but I've got to add this in here. I took out a 32" Black Cottonwood lead today that threatened a house (Giant 4.5' pig). I had to whittle it from the top down, cause there wasn't room to crash it. Anyway, finally I had it down to a 15' log to fall out of...

Totally agree Brian: Tests have to be verifiable. Which brings me to one of the most frustrating elements of our trade. We're basically never in the same situation twice. E.g. I was doing some horribly nasty dead, dead, dead (no bark left at all) Elm removals up in Snoqualmie, WA--a much...