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How true that is Jerry. No matter whether it was ultility work or logging , training on the job has a price and that's production. In my later years at the cut and skid logging camp I worked out of, it seemed like I was the only one to take a trainee under my wing. All the other guys couldn't be...

My first few years learning to file as a teenager I too used the Oregon file holder. Only way to properly learn how to file:)

The "rule" with round filed saw chain is the proper file position is 1/10 the file diameter above the cutting edge throughout the cutters life. Be careful with the "rule of thumb theory" ..............all that means is "learned from experience , but not proven by science". :)

When 8 hr day logging we fallers always went from 7/32" round file to 13/64" [even smaller 5mm] when the chain got down to 1/2 cutter size. But having said that we touched up our cutters regularly through out the day when on piecework production and the smaller file size drop speeded things up...

Thanks Jerry :thumbup: I try my best......safety is always the first thing on my mind that I want to pass on to the green horns who are willing to learn.

Well said Jerry, I've learned a lot of tricks from the old school 1950-60s hand fallers [when they were in their prime] here on the plains, and these guys could barely speak English because they were from French speaking Quebec. Quebec here in Canada has produced seasoned loggers since the 17th...