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Cool. I had not seen that myself, but have not been in the woods very long. We dont get to stick around for very after the mop up in done. When I work for the State we just mop up and go to the next fire. I never get to see much of the falling work that happens after the fire is out...

Burnham, have you ever seen a hazzard tree or snag in the woods or in a fire that was taken down with the help of a rope and a piece of heavy equipment?

Gotcha! If that does not work? When we took the S212 class, they told us that they were people in Boise that were considering making snags and hangers the realm of a new class of faller, above "C certifier" fallers.

So I watched a video just now of a dead tree being cut out of a live tree. They just cut chunks out of the leaner until it was pretty straight and muscled it out by hand. But, I gather you are talking about manipulating the butt in the oposite direction that the top is hung in order to lever...

Okay, speaking of things a crap faller should know, what is a salami cut?