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The guys you know who are still climbing with what they learned on...does that mean primarily spur work? If so, I can certainly understand that. My spur work has not changed other than having a real easy-to-adjust flipline. If you are saying that they are still squirreling around the trees...

Gary, Glad you finally got all that figured out. That was a fairly elaborate setup you had for awhile. I am somewhat at a loss why some old timers have so much difficulty switching to a newer, less energy requiring system. Honestly climbing since 1969 and like most others, we started with...