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Exactly Stig. Humans are the new addition to the equation... Well, at least the modern humans. Note. I NEVER said human made climate. Now, back when we were more nomadic and hunter gatherers, we would move with the climate patterns. Egypt is a great example of moving with change. Nile river...

Spot on Rusty. And for the global warming folks, yes, warmer weather trends play into the perfect storm. No one cause, no one type fix.

Wild land interface is a difficult task. A LOT of obticles to over come to help it be safer. Sad it takes catastrophes like these to get the idea of becoming proactive. Of course it all takes money, and there is just not enough. There will be more of these disasters while they whittle away at...

Good for writing permits anyway.. Your welcome Joel .

Owls, frog's, beetles...... there is quite a list. Then the expense of documentation.... studies. Just a thought Joel, if you get a chance.. The Roseville campus is not all that far from Paradise. If you go back out, look up the LTO class. Couple days and about 45.00 just outside Sacramento...

When I was in LTO class here in .CA, you could see by the regulations on just the state level how harvesting was going to be a logistics nightmare. That, and those very regs along with preservation groups is what killed the logging infrastructure to deal with forest issues. Fires, dead and...

Couple of guys that once worked for me that I trained went up. Few guys I know from up here. Of course, with so many local resources chasing money, my phone has been busy.