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Been there and done that, my old friend Gary. Sucks to be us :D.

You sure do...just like all the rest of us. Really...what's the difference between need and want anyway? :)

Then beware, all in the vicinity... :D

Scott is good, no doubt about it, Kyle. But if you want to have your socks blown off you might do as I did once, and attend a national level tree climbers competition. I watched Beddes Strasser in the finals make a hand toss of just over 130 feet to a small target, just one try. I bet he...

Truth. But not very much different with a "soft" throwbag of modern manufacture, so far as hazard to us tender humans...get hit in the face by one in a situation as Scott describes, and I promise you, you'll just as likely be needing a new eye. I made one of my most stupid of errors in...

I don't know what my good friend Scott does for hand throwing. He's a really talented man, so I would not be surprised that he has found success with a method that I have not...but for me the triangular hang, two handed, between the legs has been far more effective in both accuracy and range...

Not from me...but I'm not even close to a consensus :D. But not ever having tried the APTA a single time, I of course cannot really be considered the be all source of info on the subject. On the other hand...big tree climber peeps like me, Stig, Jerry Beranek, and others, have been placing...