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We knew that...the easily bothered part, not the slow vs. fast part. :D

It was everything else that I got rid of :D.

Always glad to hear my input has been a help, Tim. Thank you. Consider this model, perhaps? Pricy, but might fit your needs. http://www.rockexotica.com/products/carabiners/Assault.html

Old fart, you mean :D. I learned the chain distance method a thousand or so years ago, but in my working group we all threw that away due to the far more useful method I described, allowing the stand examiner to find the exact best spot to get accurate height measurements for a really good...

From the thread I linked earlier...any distance works so long as you can see the top, or whatever point you wish to measure the height to, with the right calculations as described in the following post...

Y'all are just scared of the math... :D. In the tree, I use climb line length too.

Here's at least one thread on the subject...might be the one Willie is thinking of. https://www.masterblasterhome.com/showthread.php?10360-angle-of-the-dangle&highlight=clino